We service multiple SNFs who flush their 24Ga cannulas (and others) q24 and
have not had a problem with occlusions. I think the answer lies with the
positive pressure valves. We use UltraSite.
Regards,
Dianne Sim
IV Assist, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rakay Dance
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:16 PM
To: Tim Talbert
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Eliminating heparin from peripheral flushes

24 gauge catheters need to be flushed much more often to keep patent.
In the NICU where I worked we had to change our policy to q2-3 hour
flushes when we switched to saline from heparin because of the large
number of clotted catheters.  Almost 100% clotted by 8 hours.  We were
not using positive pressure valves at that time.  RaKay

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Talbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:27 PM
To: Janice Patten; Rakay Dance
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Eliminating heparin from peripheral flushes

Why would the gauge of the catheter matter?

Tim

>>> "Rakay Dance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/8/05 >>>
There is an article in the new INS journal stating that q24 flushing
is
best for PIV's on ambulatory patients but I wonder what size catheter
they were using?  I would love it if it would work and I would try it
with a 22 but not a 24.   RaKay

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janice Patten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Eliminating heparin from peripheral flushes

One of JCAHO's proposed National Patient Safety Goals in 2007 is to
eliminate heparin from flushing peripheral lines.  For patients in the
home care setting, I'm just curious to see if you think lines will
clot
off in 24 hours if the line is used only once daily (e.g. for Invanz).
Is it reasonable to make an extra nursing visit on unteachable
patients
to flush BID w/ saline?

Jan Patten PharmD
Director, Infusion Therapy
Pathways Home Care (NorthEast Medical Center)
487 Lake Concord Road
Concord, NC  28025
704 784-7116 office
704 786-2674 fax
704 773-0229 cell
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