If the patient is able to answer questions inquire if the patient is
experiencing chills.  Elderly or immunosuppressed patients may remain
afebrile.  The recommendation is to draw blood cultures, one from the
PICC and one peripheral.  

Yes I have seen patients who are asymptomatic but with positive blood
cultures.

Wendy Boersma, RN, BSN, CRNI
Throughput and PICC Services Manager
269-966-8591 or pager 269-410-0385


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It would seem to me there are a couple of other sources here other than
the
PICC. 
the sputum growing funky stuff? The abd tenderness..... It is good they
are
waiting to pull the PICC. Itshould be included in the investigation --
how long
has the PICC been in?
Jose
Quoting Betsy Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> New question for the group.
> 
> Had a physician today ask if I had ever heard of a patient having an
infected
> CVC or PICC but was totally asymptomatic?  No erythema, tenderness,
drainage,
> etc at the insertion site of up the extremity for a PICC.  No other
symptoms
> except for a high WBC? 
> 
> CT of head chest and abd done today on patient
> Blood cultures pending
> Sputum cultures growing lots of funky stuff.  No CXR ordered since
10/13/05
> UA sent for culture and sensitivity pending
> Pt has partial Bowel obstruction. Has g-tube, and severe abd
tenderness
> PICC site soft, non-tender complete up inner aspect of arm to axilla
when
> palpated.  No increase in arm circumference, no increase in forarm
> circumference.  No pain across anterior chest, both lumens flush like
a
> dream.  No erythema, drainage or swelling at insertion site.  
> Physicians want to pull the PICC for suspected infection source.  Any
help to
> the two questions posed in the first paragraph?  I have asked enough
> questions about the patient they are waiting until something really
indicates
> the PICC as the source.  We do not do "time to positivity" cultures
yet at
> our facility, the lab is looking into this for me.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Betsy Harmon RN BSN CRNI
> Vascular Access Team
> Critical Care Unit
> Alaska Native Medical Center
> Anchorage, Alaska
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 








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