This is a pet peeve with me.  We usually don't find out that a patient is 
receiving Vanco until it is time to restart the IV or they have had multiple IV 
restarts due to the Vanco.  Of course by then it is too late to place a PICC or 
the doc feels they will be sending them home soon.   Of course then we find the 
patient is still here 2 weeks later with multiple bruises from attempted IV 
starts.
 
 
Margaret M Nicastro, CRNI, OCN
Coorordinator IV Therapy/Oncology
Gettysburg Hospital
147 Gettys Street
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Phone:  717-337-4312
Fax:  717-337-4485
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Cindy Schrum CRNI
Sent: Wed 1/18/2006 5:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FW: Million Dollar Nurse



It's done peripherally here, sometimes for just a couple doses, sometimes more 
before they get a Picc.  No way we can put a Picc in every patient getting 
Vanc.  That's the perfect world . . . not here.

Cindy Schrum RN CRNI
IVTeam Coordinator
Gaston Memorial Hospital
Gastonia, North Carolina
(704) 834-2707

>>> "Raye Dillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2006 1:59 PM >>>
so am i to understand that every patient who gets vanc ordered gets a
central line of some type or are others just not speaking up.  maybe its
because kids have such great vein integrity but its a fact that we just
dont see problems with vanc administration peripherally and we give it
fairly often or maybe its because its only given short term
peripherally.

>>> "Autym Didsbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2006
1:54:21 PM >>>
We run in to this issue often in home care...  One pharmacist tries to
justify this by saying "they do it that way at the hospitals."  Bottom
line, we are each responsible for our own nursing practice, regardless
of what "everyone else" does.  I can easily imagine an attorney saying
"so as a CRNI you were aware that Vancomycin can cause tissue necrosis
with extravasation, but you instructed your staff to do this anyway?"
In my opinion, and in accordance with INS, if the pH isn't between
5-9,
this is not good practice.  Obviously, if the pH of the Vanco is
within
this range, it's a different story, but that's not the case for us. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Raye Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: Million Dollar Nurse

i work on peds and we give vanc through a peripheral line all the time.

we cant be the only ones.

>>> "Chris Cavanaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/17/2006 6:39:13 AM >>>
This may be a great way for us to share our infusion knowledge with
staff
nurses...."no, it is not OK to give Vanco through that PIV..."

Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
-----Original Message-----
From: David W. Woodruff, MSN, RN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:07 AM
To: Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
Subject: Million Dollar Nurse

Dear Chris,

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