Yes Lynn,  In addition a whole heck of a lot of physician education. 
Hard to control when they change meds.
Bob

>>> Lynn Hadaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/4/2006 11:16:39 AM >>>
Or we need some good clinical data upon which to base our decisions 
about their use. Lynn

At 10:45 AM -0700 2/4/06, Robert Nohavec wrote:
>I too agree with all.  Dual lumen midlines should be ommitted from
>practice.  I would rather place 2 single lumen midlines
>Bob
>
>>>>  "Lynn Hadaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/4/2006 7:51:01 AM
>>>>
>I share your concern about dual lumen midlines as I am not aware of
>any clinical studies using them. Midline tip location is always level
>with the axilla and never extends into the shoulder area, regardless
>of the insertion site. Midlines also require a careful assessment of
>the pH and osmolarity of solutions which should be the same as any
>other peripheral catheter. Midlines can replace multiple peripheral
>catheters for some patients but they are never a replacement for a
>central line. Lynn
>
>At 8:15 AM -0500 2/4/06, Cindy Schrum wrote:
>>Nancy, We may put in 10-15 Midlines per month.  Leaking at the
>>insertion site is usually one of the signs of thrombus.  The fluids
>>are retrograding back down the pathway of the vein.  We use MST/US,
>>basilic or cephalic, about 1" above the AC.
>>
>>I dont' use anything bigger than a 3fr (smallest catheter, largest
>>vein).  If you use a dual, you can only infuse meds that are Y-site
>>compatible because the tip is not central.  So I believe duals
>>shouldn't be used.
>>
>>Tip should end at the axilla.  No further for Midline placements.
>>Hope this helps!
>>
>>Cindy Schrum CRNI
>>
>>On 2/3/06, Nancy Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   Here goes some question about Midline.
>>>   My hospital IV team (that I am on) has stopped putting in
midlines
>because
>>>   we were experiencing leaking at the insertion site.
>>>   Is any one else experiencing this problem.
>>>   Also, Do you place them in the ac or upper arm?
>>>    Do you use MST and or ultrasound to place a midline?
>>>   Where is the tip if you use the upper arm?
>>>   We use Bard 4fr groshong ad 5fr dual per q cath midlines, that
is
>if we
>>>   happen to put one in.
>>>   Thanks
>>>   Nancy
>>>
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>Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RNC, CRNI
>Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.
>126 Main Street, PO Box 10
>Milner, GA 30257
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Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.
126 Main Street, PO Box 10
Milner, GA 30257
http://www.hadawayassociates.com 
office 770-358-7861

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