Well, you could try having the pharmacist pull up the pH and osmolarity of the drug, and bring out the INS standards to compare it to....that is what works for the lawyers in the cases I have testified in.

Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI

----- Original Message -----
From: Heather Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 5:31 pm
Subject: RE: phenergan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Ask the pharmacist if he/she can explain to you why phenergan
> burns like liquid fire when it is injected into the "good vein",
> but not when it is given centrally.
>
> Heather Nichols RN BSN CRNI
> Infusion Services
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> >>> "Feckers, Charlotte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/01/06 3:16 PM >>>
>
> To the group: I read this e-mail this am and sure enough we had a
> Doc order phenergan 12.5 Iv I spoke up and said it had just been
> on the link how bad it was. He and the pharmacist both told me it
> was fine to give as long as you make sure you have a good vein....
> Not a central line but a good vein. The pharmacist told me if it
> was as bad as I was saying we would have had it pulled from the
> shelves. Anyone out there this afternoon with some good come
> backs I don't have a lot of time this afternoon to research articles.
> Thanks in advance Charlotte RNCRNI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynn Hadaway
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:54 AM
> To: Kilbourne, Susan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: phenergan
>
>
> While there are numerous lawsuits involving promethazine injuries,
> there is not much that has ever been published. The following are
> the only ones that I know of:
> Extravasation of I.V. promethazine M. Malesker, P. Malone, C.
> Cingle, R. Cochran American journal of health-System pharmacy
> unusual drug experiences, FDA, promethazine injection, intra-
> arterial injection, extravasation, dominal hysterectomy 05-14-
> 01 Vol. 56, September 1, 1999 1742-1743 2049
> Case Report
>
>
> Accidental intra-arterial injection of promethazine HCI during
> general anesthesia: report of a case H. Mostafavi, M. Samimi
> Anesthesiology intra-arterial injection, promethazine
> hydrochloride (Phenergan), anesthesia 10-30-02 Vol. 35,
> No. 6, December 1971 645-646 2836 Case Report
>
>
> Promethazine adverse events after implementation of a medication
> shortage interchange. H. Sheth, M. Verrico, S. Skedar, A. Towers
> Ann Pharmacother promethazine, adverse events, 11-11-
> 5 Volume 39, Number 2, February 2005 255-261 5265 Abstract
>
>
> Adverse reactions related to phenergan C. Blankenship
> Gastroenterology Nursing Phenergan, arterial misplacement,
> PICC, pediatrics, seizure activity 11-04-04 Volume 24,
> Number 3 149-150 3985 Review
>
>
> At 5:23 PM -0800 2/28/06, Kilbourne, Susan wrote:
> We are finally having a team meeting at our hospital to discuss
> the use of IV phenergan through peripheral lines after having two
> problems in the past year. The problem is convincing the MDs. Can
> anyone point me to some specific literature to support of dangers
> of infiltrated phenergan?
> Thanks in advance,
> Sue Kilbourne CRNI, OCN
>
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