Yes, home hospice.  That was what I was referring to.  This was not a routine occurence, but only for special circumstances.
 

Donna Fritz, MN, RN, OCN
Oncology/Pain Clinical Nurse Specialist
Cancer Center
St. Mary-Corwin Medical  Center
719.560-5215
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Martha Pike
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:15 PM
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Subject: Re: subq MS in LTC

I have had the same question come up several times in long term care facilities.
I do not see the advantage to using this method in a skilled nursing facility.

When we put in a SC set for infusion there are tiny amounts being injected / infused over time, which gives the tissue time to absorb the drug and minimizes inflammation at the site. 

If you are injecting a larger dose every few hours it is probably going to hurt just as much as getting multiple separate injections as most of the pain is from the drug going in - not the needle. 

It would seem that the lack of site rotation may also result in more damage to the tissue.
Having received morphine injections I have experienced those nasty and painful lumps at the injection site and cannot imagine having repeated drug injections at the same location.

I have not had the opportunity to ask the hopice nurses this question, but I wonder if this method was invented for home hospice when the patient or other non-clinician may be administering the med????
/Martha


On Apr 26, 2006, at 4:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone heard of placing a subq needle and giving morphine by push, capping off the extension tubing and administering it either routinely or prn? This situation came up in a LTC facility where the local pharmacy states that a hospice company is doing that and not using a PCA pump. It sounds great because nurses in LTC don't use a PCA pump very often and they don't feel comfortable with one, whereas just pushing the MS through an indwelling needle saves the resident many sticks. I am interested to see if other nurses around the country have heard of this practice.
 
Thanks,
Diane Jiles, RN-CRNI

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