This is absolutely true for any procedure - there is no "certification" for a specific procedure. This is one of my pet peeves when education companies use this term incorrectly. Sorry for the soapbox! Lynn

At 7:28 AM -0700 4/28/06, Anna Liang wrote:
I called the california nursing board yesterday asking
about ultrasound 'certification'; this is what I was
told:
RNs don't need to be 'certified' using ultrasound for
venous access. but there needs to be documentation to
show that you are competent: training (can be as
simple as how to use the machine), at least two
successful return demonstrations observed by competent
trainer(s), P&P.

--- Alma Kooistra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 The messages that passed through yesterday re
 ultrasound certification got
 me to thinking........

 I am crippling through the process of mastering PICC
 placement using
 ultrasound.  My training has consisted of having
 Boston Scientific send down
 a couple of Ultrasound trained nurses who
accompanied me for one day. Neither were licensed in our state so couldn't touch
 anyone and just coached
 at the bedside.  They watched me during one
 insertion and a couple of our
 other staff during one insertion as well.  I had
 never seen a line placed
 using ultrasound until the day I did it with them
 (and it wasn't
 easy.........).

 Since that day I have been out there struggling to
 get through the learning
 curve on my own.  I've read P/P for line insertion
 using ultrasound ad
 nauseum.  Beyond that I've had no other training.

 How well protected am I in case of a lawsuit?  I'm
 starting to get a little
 nervous.  I could hardly expect the staff who
 watched me though that one
 first insertion to sign me off as
 competent......they would be crazy to do
 that since I clearly was not competent.  I have
 another trainer coming next
 week.  Is it possible that this amount of training
 would cover me if I have
 a bad outcome?  I don't know if there's anyone in
 our area (South Dakota,
 Northwest IA) placing lines at the bedside using
 ultrasound so it's not easy
 for me to get training.  My managed chuckled when I
 asked about getting $$$
 to go somewhere for training.

 Alma Kooistra RN, CRNI





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