Your comments are similar to what I have heard from others. While US may increase the initial success rate of getting the catheter into the vein, there is no data on the outcomes with that catheter. For one person performing the procedure, it is impossible to use the recommended venipuncture technique calling for one hand to hold the catheter and one hand to hold skin traction. You would need a 2nd person to hold the probe in order to use this standard venipuncture technique. When you can not hold skin traction during the venipuncture and complete catheter advancement, the vein will naturally move around as you push the catheter. This causes the catheter to contact the vein wall leading to phlebitis or infiltration.

I would strongly caution everyone though **not** to use the double-wall technique to go through both sides of the vein, pull out enough to reach the vein lumen, then thread the catheter into the vein. While this may work for a PICC, it is the perfect way to cause infiltration or extravasation injury with a short peripheral catheter and these types of injuries are the most frequent cause of lawsuits. Lynn

At 2:44 PM -0500 5/16/06, Richard Pearson wrote:
At our hospital we are called on occasionally to place peripheral IVs using the Bard Site-Rite 3, and I have done about a hundred or so of these. You can use the site-rite just as you do to start a PICC, but it is more difficult for three reasons. reason #1: Difficulty threading: when doing a PICC if the IV catheter doesn't thread up the vein it is usually ok because you can usually get the wire to thread and thats all you need. If you are starting an IV you do need to get the IV catheter to insert fully. You MUST use an IV catheter that is 1 3/4 long (20 gauge); the regular length catheter (1 1/4 in) is simply too short to reach. I think all manufacturers have the longer catheters. reason #2: infiltration: For more than short term use an IV in the upper arm seems less than satisfactory. I think its because the normal movement of the arm causes a lot of movement and pistoning and then infiltration. That is not a problem for PICC/Midline because of the flexibility of the catheter and the fact that it is impossible to fall out of the vein. So for a peripheral IV that needs to be there 72 hours I prefer to start it in the lower arm, just distal to the antecubital space. The veins in that area are often adequate size and the IVs seem to last longer. However, since the veins are not as big as the upper arm it does take more skill and luck to get it in, so in some ways it is harder than doing a PICC/midline. With the smaller veins it is very easy to go through the other side, so it takes some practice to get it just right. Sometimes when I go through I pull back until I get blood return, then advance it into the vein; that usually works. #3. Sterile technique: we don't use a sterile needle guide or cover. Instead I find the vein with the bare probe and gel, then mark the spot with my pen with the point retracted, or a straw. Then I prep w chloroprep and use lidocaine if desired. Then I place a small bead of gel above the site, then insert the needle. If you are careful the probe/gel will not come into contact w the needle site. There is no need to wear sterile gloves--just as in a regular IV stick. Some people use sterile gel; I use regular gel since it doesnt (usually) come into contact w the catheter.



Rich Pearson RN MS CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Intensive/Post Intensive Care
Alegent Health-Immanuel Medical Center
572-3433


 "Lawler, Maureen C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/16/2006 1:15 PM >>>
We are just beginning using US for PICCs.  Ct Scan does not want to use power
injector on veins in hand or wrist...don't blame them.  If they can't gain
access in a large vein they call us and sometimes we can't either.  They have
asked if it would be possible, once we gain skill with US, to place periphs in
the upper arm with the aid of US.  Are any of you able to do this and if not
what do you do to gain access for CT power injections?


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Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RNC, CRNI
Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.
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