Re: IV Team/PICC Team

[Scott Gilbert]

Kathy:   I just finished an average 8 hour shift where we rotate our IV Dept RNs in our imaging dept and place 40 peripherals in 40 patients in MRI, CT, NucMed, PET Scan and Ultrasound...I am fortunate as we have designed an IV start room where the imaging outpatients stop in and get their peripheral IV on the way to their appointment.  Many of them are very challenging veins and patients who are oncology survivors.   That is an average Monday-Friday shift for us.  Scott     ----- Original Message ----- From: Kokotis, Kathy To: Blough, Lauren ; julie bryant ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: RE: IV Team/PICC Team Coverage varies   some teams work two shifts some with three for peripheral IV's   INS time and motion estimates 20 minutes for an easy peripheral and 40 for a difficult peripheral with a mean of 30 minutes.  That means an eight hour nurse can do 16 peripheral IV's in a day.  The majority range is three an hour with a mean of 24 peripheral IV's with a skilled nurse in an eight hour day.  I have seem the max with travel time at 30-35 but that is booking it.   To get an estimate of FTE needs find out how many peripheral IV's are purchased per year by the hospital You may want to exclude those sent to ER, OR, Labor and delivery, radiology as those are ancillary units you may not cover with this team   If the facility is doing 20,000 peripheral IV's per year you would take 20,000 /3 per hour = 6,667 hours of placement time per year  = 6,667 hours per year /52 weeks in a year = 128 nurse labor hours per week or 3.2 FTE's are need to place the peripheral IV's without taking into consideration vacation time.  I would estimate one would need 4.0 full time FTE's to place 20,000 PIV's per year   Hope that makes sense to you   good luck   kathy       Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the use of those to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from further disclosure under law. If you have received this e-mail in error, its review, use, retention and/or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments.[v1.0] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blough, Lauren Sent: Mon 8/7/2006 2:50 PM To: julie bryant; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IV Team/PICC Team Julie, How many FTE's are they giving you to work with ?  How many beds is your facility?   Lauren Blough, RN, BS, CRNI Educator/Clinical Specialist Venous Access Specialist Team Florida Hospital 601 E. Rollins St Orlando, FL 32803 PH: 407-303-5600 X 3811 or 4066 Beeper: 407-303-5599 # 1448   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of julie bryant Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IV Team/PICC Team Ok, I am going to try to explain my situation to all in hopes of some good feed back. Once upon a time...Actually just a few years ago my facility had a full IV team.  24/ 7 coverage.  We started & restarted all the PIV's and took care of all vascular access needs ie: ports, hickmans & dialysis catheters.   We had started to do Some PICC's maybe 30 to 50 a month.  Not sure of all the politics involved, but the IV team was taken away and we were to be just a PICC team. (which has grown greatly)  So of course the Team was down sized quite a bit,  several people lost their positions and had to go to other depts. So now the floor nurses who never had to start an IV were expected to start IV's proficiently and cannulate ports and take care of things they had never seen before. Now, three years later, There are some problems. Imagine that! So I have to come up with a way to cover the hospital with an IV team without putting a full blown team back in place. (Main focus would be PIV's.) I was wondering how other teams work, such as hours and numbers of nurses covering. Types of shifts and etc... Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all so much! Julie     Julie Bryant RN CRNI Clinical Specialty Coordinator PICC/Midline Dept. St. Vincent's Medical Center Jacksonville, Fl.   Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.