Possibly, maybe even probably, but I am not aware of any data that supports this. I don't think a study of this specific question has been done. That is why this may be appropriate when there are many intermittent drugs ordered but could be a problem if only one or two are needed. Lynn

At 1:55 PM -0400 9/15/06, Schwaner, Sandra L *HS wrote:
But, wouldn't running a maintenance solution at 20ml or so an hour, piggybacking multiple meds into the primary tubing by use of backflush method, and connecting the entire apparatus , then disonnecting every 72 hours reduce number of times that the system is compromised and possible impact infection?


Sandra L. Schwaner MSN, RN, ACNP
P.O. Box 800377
Angiography/ Interventional Radiology
University of Vriginia
Office: 434-924-9401 - 434-243-7081
Fax: 434-982-6468
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Lynn Hadaway
Sent: Thu 9/14/2006 6:30 PM
To: Janousek, Patricia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: diluents


I am familiar with hospitals that practice this way, although I have never done it where I have worked. This would not be for the purpose of actually diluting anything, but it would be used as fluid to keep the catheter and vein open in between med doses. The issues with this are: 1. KVO is not a valid order since there is no patient-specific rate prescribed. So the physicians will need to prescribe a rate.
2. Risk of fluid overload
3. Limitations on patient's ability to get out of bed and ambulate since they will always be connected to an infusion.

This works best for those patients that are still receiving other infusions and are not to the point of ambulation.

I also know there are other facilities that will use a bag of fluids, piggyback all meds into it, and then allow the saline to infuse after each dose has finished, then the nurse disconnects the patient after the saline has flushed the line. This is acceptable and would allow the backpriming procedure to be used for multiple drugs.

I have recently researched this for one of my manufacturing clients and there are really no standards about using fluids in this manner. INS standards do not address it. The other option is to not use this carrier fluid and infuse each drug directly through the catheter. This means the nurse must be present to disconnect the tubing immediately when the med is finished. If not, there will be blood that refluxes into the lumen leading to a lumen occlusion from clotted blood. So it is a trade-off for nursing time. Also, using this carrier fluid connected to the catheter with the backpriming process for multiple drugs would mean the least amount of catheter hub manipulation, and thus decrease the risk of catheter related bloodstream infection. Again, no studies to support that idea either.

Hope this helps, Lynn

At 2:48 PM -0500 9/14/06, Janousek, Patricia wrote:

Hello everyone, I have been asked to check on the practice of hanging a diluent on a patient who has multiple IVABs scheduled frequently (Q 4, Q6 hours etc.). I'd like to know if anyone does this, and if so, is there set criteria, specific solution, rate etc. Also, are there references I could refer to? INS Standards? Thanks so much.



        Patty


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