I agree. I belong to both, and draw both information and tremendous social
value from the members of each. They're both wonderful.......
Alma Kooistra RN, CRNI
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From: "Martha Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: conflict & competition
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:34:26 -0400
Seems to me that conflict and competition are in the eyes of the beholder.
All organizations are made up of individual members who vary in their
opinions.
There are many of us who belong to both organizations and choose to enjoy
the best from each and to ignore the politics and prejudices of those few
individuals who seem to thrive on creating / perpetuating this controversy.
/Martha
On Sep 22, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Marilyn Hanchett wrote:
NO conflict? NO competition? You must be describing some unknown parallel
universe that the rest of us have never visited!!!
M Hanchett RN
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynn Hadaway
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:15 AM
To: Chris Cavanaugh; 'Denise Macklin'; 'venous'
Subject: RE: New certification
Chris,
I must protest your impression that "the board sees it as a way to break
away from INS". I am not a board member of AVA now but was a board member
for about 5 years. Those years were during the time when we diligently
worked to bring down the barriers between INS and AVA. These organizations
are *****not***** in conflict or competition with each other. Please get
that idea out of your head and your language. We do not want to return to
the old days. We worked too hard to get past that point.
I now state, as I always have, that there is a need for both
organizations. The membership, mission, goals, etc for each organization
are quite different. Please take the time to understand those differences
and support both or the one that is most applicable to your practice. Lynn
At 6:19 PM -0400 9/21/06, Chris Cavanaugh wrote:
Denise,
I am very well aware that the AVA certification is in its infancy,
however, I think it is a good idea now to start a dialog among IV nurses
regarding this certification, if it is wanted, needed, etc. I realize
that the board sees it as a way to break away from INS, make money,
differentiate nurses that place lines from nurses that do infusions, etc.
I am looking to start a discussion among IV nurses, AVA and non AVA
members, as to the need for this, whether or not it is a good idea, etc.
There may be some nurses who will want both certifications, but there may
also be some who feel it is cost prohibitive, or too difficult to
recertify for two, or who feel two would be confusing to the general
medical community. For instance, there are many specialties in critical
care-neonatal, pediatric, surgical , cardiac, medical-but just one, all
encompassing CCRN, and that is a designation well known in the medical
community. Perhaps we should be considering working with INS to make
the CRNI more all encompassingĀ.just some thoughts for discussion. As I
said, I am curious as to what the general IV community thinks about the
issue.
Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
From: Denise Macklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:51 PM
To: Chris Cavanaugh; venous
Subject: Re: New certification
The AVA certification process is in its infancy. However, the basic exam
will be offered to everyone nurses, as well as sales reps. The advanced
exam (level 2) will be offered to RN's and MD's only. The CRNI focuses
mainly on the infusion aspect of IV therapy. The core includes
medications (antibiotics and Chemo) blood and blood components etc. The
AVA certification will focus on Vascular Access. It will be some time
before the AVA certification process will be complete. However, it will
offer a different certification than currently available with CRNI. I
would think that there will be nurses who hold both certifications in the
future. But for sure will choose one that best reflects their practice
needs.
Denise Macklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Cavanaugh
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:39 PM
Subject: New certification
Hi gang-I was hoping to see some discussion regarding this on the list,
but have not so I thought I would get the pot stirred upĀAVA announced at
the Town Hall meeting that they are working on a new certification, one
that may have 2 levels, one for licensed (MDs and RNs) and one for
unlicensed (manufacturers, sales reps). What do people think about this?
Is it a duplication of efforts? Will those that have a CRNI go ahead
for this certification also? My experience has been that so few people
know what a CRNI is, that yet another certification in infusion may
confuse them. Are there any other specialties that have more than one
certification? I could not think of any. I am interested in hearing
what group has to say. Thanks
Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
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