Very tough situation but here is what I thought of:
Aspirin is a pretty good antiplatelet drug, so this may keep the clot from growing, maybe. Many risk factors are present to cause a DVT - third spacing (severe extremity edema) probably leading to systemic fluid volume deficit, diabetes = hypercoagulability + large 6 Fr PICC Seems like the best thing you can do is leave the current PICC and closely monitor the clot. When he becomes more stable, and if the clot worsens, you may have other options. I would personally want to monitor this patient and not leave this one to his primary care nurse(s) alone though.

Eager to read the thoughts of others. Lynn

At 9:31 PM -0500 10/25/06, DAVID LONGSETH wrote:
Had a patient today with the following scenario:
Admitted 10/14 to MICU from a nursing home with multiple,multiple problems. Respiratory failure with MRSA in lungs,renal failure,CHF,GI bleed,diabetes. Trach'ed a few days ago,on ventilator. Also some sort of undiagnosed 'platelet problem'--normal PLT levels but prolonged bleeding times. Basically a very very sick guy. Because of the bleeding problems,he can get no anticoagulation beyond an aspirin down the dobhoff. 6Fr Triple Lumen Power PICC placed 10/16 in right basilic about 2" above ACF--routine procedure,tip into lower SVC. Asked to look into patient today. Both of his forearms have +3 edema from ACF to hands. Doppler showed thrombus in right basilic around the PICC. Right upper arm looks fine-no swelling and in fact the circumference is 3.5cm LESS then when line placed. No palpable phlebitic vein. Both forearms are EQUALLY swollen.
The issue is whether to leave the current PICC or place one in the other arm.
My views are thus: his right upper arm is essentially asymptomatic and the PICC is not causing the forearm swelling,it's the CHF/ARF;of all his problems,swollen forearms are pretty minor;this is not acting like a septic thrombophlebitis;whether the PICC comes out or not,the thrombus is still there and the risk for PE is still there,PICC or no PICC;there's no guarantee that a different PICC will not develop a thrombus and in that case he will have not only a known thrombus but yet another line at risk for developing more;his left arm veins are barely big enough to safely accomodate a 5Fr line anyway. My conclusion--the risks for placing another line are at least equal to if not greater than leaving the current one.
I welcome any guidance,opinions or insights from the group.
Regards
David


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