when a order is written as such, it is asking the RN
to titrate the dosage based on responses. but the
order doesn't specify the parameters for titration. we
don't do that any more after JCAHO said it was not
appropriate. 


--- "Nauman, Tanya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  We have an order for "0.5ml to 2.0ml Ativan, p.o or
> IV prn for PICC
> placement, MR x1" as part of our routine orders.  We
> use it about
> 30% of the time.
>   We try not to overuse it, but for patients who say
> "I want to be
> knocked
> out" or exhibit signs of anxiety that continue after
> our initial
> attempts to
> put them at ease, we do give it.  We usually use
> 0.5mg to 1 mg, but
> have used up to 4mg.(and we don't "knock them out".)
>  
>   With anxious patients, we often see venospasm
> making venous access
> and advancement of the catheter difficult.  We
> realize that Ativan is
> not a smooth
> muscle relaxant, but when the patient is relaxed,
> their veins don't
> spasm.
>   I like to have the option available as it saves
> time...rather than
> waiting around for
> 20-30 minutes to get a sedation order.
>   We take our peds patients to OR where they receive
> general
> anesthesia...this is
> not what we would like, but we don't have a
> conscious sedation team or a
> child life
> specialist...and after several fiascos in
> pediatrics, we just take them
> to OR.
> Tanya R.N.
> I.V. Support/PICC team/Educator
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Kilbourne, Susan
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Ativan with PICC placements
> 
> 
> I have recently been challenged by a physician on
> our use of IV Ativan
> with PICC placement. Our team often will ask for an
> order prior to PICC
> placement just in case the patient is anxious about
> the procedure. I was
> surprised when I did a recent audit to see that they
> have been using
> Ativan in 53% of our PICC placements. I am curious
> what other teams are
> doing. Is this standard of practice or have we gone 
> too far on this?
> 
> Sue Kilbourne 
> Asante Infusion Services 
> 
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