Good day Larry, Synthetic backups will not save you space as you will still be creating a full using the last full and the incrementals. You will however save time as you can have the synthetic backup run in the off peak backup time, thereby decreasing you backup window.
This can save time if your master and/or media server/s are not shared with applications/databases. Your deception of differential/cumulative incremental backups will however have an effect on the number of tapes you will use. I personally prefer cumulative incremental backups as the restore window is greatly reduced in the event of a restore being required! Regards, Clem Kruger Telkom SA Ltd ITS Infrastructure Storage Management : +27 (12) 680 3102 : +27 (12) 680 3299 : +27 (83) 326 2260 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Larry S. Sent: 10 October 2006 18:29 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups Hi all, We have NetBackup 5.1 running in a Windows 2000/2003 environment. I would like to implement synthetic backups, but have some conflicting info regarding them. Will doing synthetic backups actually save tapes, or will it use the same amount of tape as a standard Full backup? I have two different opinions being offered to me, and need to sort this out quickly. As I understood it, a Synthetic would use 1 true FULL backup, and virtually create new ones based on pointers in the catalog based on the original full, and subsequent differentials. Now I am being told that the "Synthetic" Full will use the same number of tapes as a traditional full, just coalesced from the original full and the differentials. Can someone who has actually implemented synthetic point me in the right direction?? Larry Anderson Senior Systems Administrator Research Computing Facility Mayo Foundation (507)538-0393 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:00 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: NetBackup 6.0 List File? (Henry Kemp) 2. Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 3. Re: Logging problem. (H?rlimann) 4. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 5. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 6. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 7. BMR HPUX boot client failed (chodhetz) 8. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 9. Re: BMR HPUX boot client failed (Ray Schafer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:39:57 +0100 From: Henry Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File? To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" These are the list files I used last time. # Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list # Veritas NetBackup v5.1 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list # Veritas NetBackup v6.0 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.list Then you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download with wget or your favorite download tool. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wget ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gz Henry On 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote: > Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file > for the Symantec blind FTP site? Thanks! > > -- > Cheers, > Jason Ellis > _______________________________________________ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Henry Kemp, NetBackup Consultant lastminute.com, 39 Victoria Street, London, SW1H 0EE, United Kingdom e: [EMAIL PROTECTED], m:07779 130 784, w: http://www.lastminute.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would appreciate any ideas? -- Sl?inte, David Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/2006100 9/2c97e8b4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:20:32 +0200 From: H?rlimann, Flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: "David McWilliams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "NetBackup List" <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi David It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line. See the troubleshooting guide page 74. Cheers Flave ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McWilliams Sent: Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08 To: NetBackup List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would appreciate any ideas? -- Sl?inte, David Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/2006100 9/882350bf/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:32:57 -0400 From: "David McWilliams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: " H?rlimann, Flavio " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: NetBackup List <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the bottom panel 'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is minimal' If I then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, it goes back to 4 for all. Is this getting set elsewhere? On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi David > > It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the > Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line. > See the troubleshooting guide page 74. > > Cheers > Flave > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *David McWilliams > *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08 > *To:* NetBackup List > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. > > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I > have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the > admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over > 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting > recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would > appreciate any ideas? > > -- > Sl?inte, > > David > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > -- Sl?inte, David Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/2006100 9/dfa04900/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: David McWilliams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: NetBackup List <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Run the following every hour: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/vxlogmgr --auto --del --quiet This will take care of them for you. On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote: > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I > have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the > admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over > 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting > recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would > appreciate any ideas? > > -- > Sl?inte, > > David > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:00:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: David McWilliams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: " H?rlimann, Flavio " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NetBackup List <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There is also the vxlogcfg options to set the Debug and Diagnostic Levels, 6 = the highest, 0 = off for the vx* processes. Justin. On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote: > Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the bottom panel > 'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is minimal' If I > then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, it goes back to 4 > for all. Is this getting set elsewhere? > > On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi David > > > > It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the > > Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line. > > See the troubleshooting guide page 74. > > > > Cheers > > Flave > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *David McWilliams > > *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08 > > *To:* NetBackup List > > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. > > > > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I > > have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the > > admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over > > 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting > > recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. > > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would > > appreciate any ideas? > > > > -- > > Sl?inte, > > > > David > > > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > > > > > -- > Sl?inte, > > David > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0800 (CST) From: chodhetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR HPUX boot client failed To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear all, i'm using BMR 6.0 MP3 BMR Main Server and boot server for hpux installed in NetBackup Master Server i want to perform bmr restore hpux client, but when i try to boot client to BMR boot server, show Booting... Boot IO Dependent Code (IODC) revision 4 HARD Booted. ISL Revision A.00.44 Mar 12, 2003 ISL booting hpux (;0)/bmrpap1/INSTALL Boot : lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL: cannot open, or not executable Exec failed: No such file or directory anybody can help ?? Best regards, Chodhetz --------------------------------- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/2006100 9/5291b6ba/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:54:57 -0400 From: "David McWilliams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: "Justin Piszcz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: " H?rlimann, Flavio " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NetBackup List <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There should be big sticker on this thing that says 'WARNING- contains unified logging' On 10/9/06, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is also the vxlogcfg options to set the Debug and Diagnostic Levels, > 6 = the highest, 0 = off for the vx* processes. > > Justin. > > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote: > > > Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the bottom > panel > > 'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is minimal' > If I > > then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, it goes back to > 4 > > for all. Is this getting set elsewhere? > > > > On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi David > > > > > > It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the > > > Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line. > > > See the troubleshooting guide page 74. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Flave > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *David > McWilliams > > > *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08 > > > *To:* NetBackup List > > > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. > > > > > > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in > /usr/openv/logs. I > > > have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked > the > > > admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created > over > > > 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting > > > recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess > not. > > > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I > would > > > appreciate any ideas? > > > > > > -- > > > Sl?inte, > > > > > > David > > > > > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > > > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > > > > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sl?inte, > > > > David > > > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ > > http://davidmcw.tripod.com > > > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > > -- Sl?inte, David Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If there is more than one Ignite server on the subnet or if you are using a boot helper to boot from an Ignite server on a different subnet, specify the Ignite server to boot from by using the following command (replace x.x.x.x with the IP address of the Ignite server and y.y with the gateway): boot lan.x.x.x.x.y.y _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chodhetz Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:54 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR HPUX boot client failed Dear all, i'm using BMR 6.0 MP3 BMR Main Server and boot server for hpux installed in NetBackup Master Server i want to perform bmr restore hpux client, but when i try to boot client to BMR boot server, show Booting... Boot IO Dependent Code (IODC) revision 4 HARD Booted. ISL Revision A.00.44 Mar 12, 2003 ISL booting hpux (;0)/bmrpap1/INSTALL Boot : lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL: cannot open, or not executable Exec failed: No such file or directory anybody can help ?? Best regards, Chodhetz _____ <http://answers.yahoo.com.sg> Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know <http://answers.yahoo.com.sg> . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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