sorry guys, but I will have to agree.
 
when I implemented 3.4, I was given the CD, and a box of books from Veritas. I 
was expected to read them in my own time. In fact, the manuals were so big, I 
had very little choice in the matter. I should not have to give up my own 
personal time, but I did.
 
I would prefer something short and simple. I do use some PDF's for online 
agents or seperate licensed products that integrated into NBU, but to be 
expected to read large manuals is something I just cannot always do.
 
Like Jonathan said, he regrets spending his time reading the manuals, when his 
own personal time should be with his family. I regret it, but how can I be 
expected (at the time) to read the manuals, and implement a solution within 1 
week!!! it was a case of hands on, learning by my (serious) errors and 
understanding, and in the end, taking the work home with me. 
 
How sad is that !  But I guess we all had to start somewhere.....
 
Thats my 20p worth! and not a penny more :-)
Simon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:51 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU


Hence the "quick start guide."  Thankfully most software vendors seem to have 
"caught on."  i.e.  I don't want to read 800 pages of technical nonsense, most 
of which I may never need, to get their product's basic functionality working.  
Sure, sure when I want to go configuring Oracle or SAP or SharePoint I need to 
peruse that length document for technical assist but I don't have that kind of 
time if all I want to do is run a simple backup on Windows or Linux or 
whatever.  This is backup software, and I want to do backups with it.  If I 
wanted a fortnight's read I'd have taken an English class.  Don't get me wrong, 
I'm not saying that a competent admin doesn't need to be familiar with the ends 
and out of a product.  But if you are just taking a new software for a "test 
drive" then why all the hassle?  I never put anything into production without 
kicking its tires a few times in dev, and what happens if in Dev I found out 
the product isn't going to meet muster?  I regret all the time spent reading 
their )!*&#$^ admin guide instead of playing with my wife / kids / Halo 3 / 
what have you.
 
Just my $.02
 
-Jonathan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:10 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU


 
I have my doubts.
 
You'd be surprised how many folks skip the product manuals and go straight for 
the O'Reilly books
 
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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff 
Lightner
        Sent: April 01, 2008 10:29 AM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Curtis Preston; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
        Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU
        
        

        While on the surface it seems reasonable to say look at the 
manuals/pdfs it seems that someone that went to the effort of buying and 
reading a 3rd party book probably has already done that so.   Therefore the 
admonishment would be unnecessary.

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