What is it NBU can put in their DB policies (software) to make their appliances (hardware) work without RMAN that they couldn’t also have put in to make anyone else’s appliances (or tape for that matter) work? Given you’re spending a fair amount of money on NBU software licenses it seems their shouldn’t be a requirement to use their hardware as well.
From: Scott Jacobson [mailto:scott.jacob...@microfocus.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:49 PM To: Joe Liston; Lightner, Jeff Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector vs Veritas Net Backup My three Appliances are the 5230’s and with 7.7.1 you have new Appliance specific MySQL and Oracle features that basically can eliminate all RMAN scripting as it is now done with new Backup Policy Types. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Liston Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:27 PM To: Jeff Lightner <jlight...@dsservices.com<mailto:jlight...@dsservices.com>> Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU<mailto:VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector vs Veritas Net Backup I'm curious as to what model of the appliances you were looking at the time... the older 5020/5220's or the newer 5230/5330's? As for the NetBackup appliances not even being on the Gartner "magic quadrant" list for backup dedupe appliances, I believe it's because of the criteria they used: "Its appliance must be able to serve as a disk-based target for heterogeneous backup software applications and/or application-native backup utilities, such as Oracle RMAN". On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Lightner, Jeff <jlight...@dsservices.com<mailto:jlight...@dsservices.com>> wrote: We never tested the NetBackup appliance so my impression of it was based on reading specs and other comments at the time I was looking at it as a possibility. It may be it does in-line deduplication rather than post-ingest and that soured me on it but I'll admit at this point I don't recall what I saw that made me think it wasn't something we wanted to test. Also during our investigation we saw Gartner's "magic quadrant" analysis of deduplication vendors and NetBackup wasn't even in the list. Don't get me wrong - I really like NetBackup as a backup software vendor and the above is only related to their appliance (hardware). We had major backup window issues with our DXi when they changed it from post-ingest to in-line so I'm not a fan of in-line. Quantum tells us they've resolved most of the issues with the later units but we didn't eval any newer ones. We're still using our DXi 6550 with old "firmware" that does post-ingest deduplication. Quantum says they support it but after 2 years they don't really understand it any more so any call to them invariably suggests the upgrade to newer "firmaware". We didn't go with Data Domain mainly due to past business issues with EMC (prior to them acquiring DD and prior to Dell's pending acquisition of EMC). Were all things equal I'd probably investigate DD as I really never saw any issues on the ones we had. As an FYI our eval of the Exagrid solution went quite well and management has opted to go that route to replace the DXi and the Data Domain. -----Original Message----- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>] On Behalf Of tech472 Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:53 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU<mailto:VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU> Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector vs Veritas Net Backup Jeff, Could you provide specifics re: what you did not like about the NetBackup dedupe appliance? Thanks again, greatly appreciate your insight on this topic. +---------------------------------------------------------------------- |This was sent by hankv...@gmail.com<mailto:hankv...@gmail.com> via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com<mailto:ab...@backupcentral.com>. +---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu _______________________________________________ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu> http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
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