This is great information and some I wish were available from an
official source.  While at least Veritas/Symantec still supports using
pkgadd to put individual packages on, there's this heavy focus on using
their installer script which means there is less focus on what the
packages are, why you might wants packages A, B and C, but not D, etc. 

If there were a short (5 pages max) summary of what each package does
and how it relates to the other packages I know I at least would
appreciate it.

Cheers,
 - Mike Myers, mike.myers <at> nwdc.net

P.S. I think it's excellent that so many Veritas people do contribute to
this list and with such in depth information.  It's a wonderful
resource!

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:15 PM
To: Rich Whiffen; Myers, Mike
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Veritas-vx] Minimum 5.0 install

This is not going to be an official or comprehensive post, so caveat
reador...

In addition to VRTSvxvm, vxfs, and vlic, there are a number of other
packages that are not GUI nor SFMS related, but you may find useful. I
don't have a comprehensive list, but here are some examples (skipping
the VRTS prefix):

spt - a collection of useful utilities for support in case you hit a
problem. Having this pre-installed saves time, possibly very important
time depending on the problem.
odm - used for Oracle ODM support (faster performance)
glm - needed if you ever want to turn on the cluster file system.
alloc - a command line utility not widely used, but very powerful
vxmsa - libraries used to provide mapping from files to volumes to LUNs
to physical spindles
vxfen - module for I/O fencing, a data integrity solution used in
failover and a/a clusters
fspro - provides GUI support for vxfs, but also contains CLIs for
Dynamic Storage Tiering, the ability to move files among different
volumes online.

For the above, the descriptions hopefully suffice to make a decision.
The others I don't know off the top of my head, but dbac, gms, and cavf
may be unrelated to the GUI, or may have both GUI and non-GUI
capabilities.

Regards,
Scott
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Rich Whiffen
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:44 AM
> To: Myers, Mike
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] Minimum 5.0 install
> 
> One ring to rule them all...
> 
> The packages allow you to hook into Veritas Storage 
> Foundation Management Server 
> http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/theme.jsp?themeid=sfms
> 
> I've only seen the vendor group nap, err I mean power point 
> presentation of it and haven't played with it yet, but if you 
> wanted a 'single pane of glass' view of your vxvm setup, you 
> could get it.
> Free, apparently.   It's on my list of "yeah, I need to look into
> that" things.  That's the first thing that comes to my mind.
> 
> >From the site:
> 
> Key Features
> * Centralized management of diverse application, servers and 
> storage across  different operating systems, servers and 
> storage arrays. (See the dashboard.)
> * Centralized reporting and alert notification across data 
> center infrastructure.
> * Over 250 guided operations available to enable repeatable 
> administrator  processes.
> * Centralized volume mirroring and replication administration 
> and reporting  for a single view of protected applications.
> 
> Key Benefits
> * A single view of data center infrastructure from 
> applications to storage.
> * Transparency across data center infrastructure with 
> consolidated reporting  on state of storage resources.
> * Rapid problem resolution with quick discovery of the origin 
> of faults and  the ability to proactively take corrective action.
> * Improved operational efficiencies for diverse application, 
> server and  storage environments.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rich
> 
> 
> On 4/12/07, Myers, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Folks,
> > We've been looking at the 5.0 foundation suite for Solaris and 
> > wondered what people's thoughts are on the number of packages that 
> > come with it (43!).  I'm not even sure what the majority of 
> those bits 
> > DO (Symantec Private Branch Exchange?  I thought a PBX was a phone 
> > switch!)
> >
> > We have a pretty technically competent group of admins who document 
> > processes in detail and are all comfortable working at the 
> command line.
> > As a result, the majority (possibly all) of the "add on" 
> pieces never 
> > get used.
> >
> > I'm toying around with the idea of just installing 
> VRTSvlic, VRTSvxvm 
> > and VRTSvxfs and being done with it.
> >
> > What are folks thoughts on this?  I see the following:
> >
> > PROS:
> > Faster installation
> > Faster upgrades
> > Smaller disk footprint
> > Fewer patches to track/install
> >
> > CONS:
> > Junior admins have to learn command line (humm, is that 
> really a con?) 
> > Small additional learning curve for new admins who are used 
> to using 
> > the GUI Complex disk layouts are more difficult (we do very 
> little of 
> > this in our environment) Possibly support issues (though I'd think 
> > even support would want to get as "close" to the problem as 
> possible)
> >
> > What am I missing?  What's the killer app that these extra 
> pieces buy 
> > us?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  - Mike Myers, mike.myers <at> nwdc.net
> >
> >
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