DonO: Maybe a better way to explain what I was trying to say is that, when you 
do that "spiraling" I was talking about is this..A rope is nothing more than a 
bunch of single strands spiraled together to form a "rope" right??? So, in the 
rope dub, you are making the dubbing one of those "strands" along with the 
thread being another "strand", thus ending up with a two stranded rope?? 
Right?? or wrong??? Chuck

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To: DonO 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Shooting video


If this is the case, that POV camera AK Best uses will be as close to you 
ACTUALLY being there with the person as you'll get.. I'm confused about the 
rope dub though. The way I saw and read it, what you are doing is making the 
dubbing into a tear drop shape right?? Tying the end of that to the hook, then 
spinning the dubbing around the thread?? Not spinning it around like normal 
dubbing, but "spiraling" it around the thread?? Or am I completely off base??? 
I wish I could see it in person, Chuck

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  From: DonO 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Shooting video


  Chuck,

  It was kinda on purpose that there was an instructional gap for the rope dub. 
 I wanted the methods and results published, but not totally, because it would 
be pirated and other people would put their names on it.  Not many tiers, even 
the professionals, have mastered my rope-dub, other than the ones I've 
personally tutored.  Why?  Because the more experience they have in traditional 
dubbing, the more they try to make my method conform to what they know, and the 
less it works.  Hee hee.  So in essence, I am still required to put on personal 
tutoring to get tiers to have the light-bulb come on.  It used to amaze me, 
that even after hours of trying to emulate what I was doing with the rope-dub, 
that professional tiers were having trouble with it, yet novice tiers were 
having little trouble mastering it.  Now I realize it's a matter of teaching 
old dogs new tricks, and the more ingrained old habits are, the harder they are 
to break.  Since the rope-dub method is very similar in appearance to 
traditional methods, the important points of difference are missed.  When I 
tutor someone, I have them try, and then show.  They try again, and then I show 
again.  You should see the eyes go wide and the jaws drop of master tiers when 
they finally see and get the rope-dub method.

  So when I do my video, I will film it in such a way as I'm personally 
tutoring.  It WILL be emuch better than the VFB sequence, since I saved the 
essence of the technique for a cd.

  Don
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    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    To: DonO 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:40 AM
    Subject: Shooting video


    DonO: You were talking about shooting video. Have you seen any of A. K. 
Best's videos??? If not, let Me send you one. They wanted him to make a video 
to go with a book he wrote several years ago, but he wouldn't do it till the 
technology caught up to where he wanted it. He uses what is called a POV (point 
of View) camera. The tiny (1 inch diameter by about 3 inch long) camera mounts 
on a flex shaft and it's gets "up close and personal. What the tier sees, the 
person watches sees.. You see EVERY blemish, and you see EVERY thing that is 
done correctly. I'm seen your rope dub video on VFB, and with a normal camera, 
it's just not very easy to see what you are doing. BUT, with that POV, NOBODY 
could step away from the TV and NOT know how to rope dub. It's just that 
simple. Want me to burn you a video and send it to you???? Chuck


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