Wes:

I don't know how deep the water is that you plan to fish or how weedy the
water is, but I find a Cortland type 4 sink plenty and I don't go too short
with the leader, but I'm not fishing over much weed. I have had fairly good
success with this set up when fishing a booby.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
B. C.   Canada 
 

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Of Wes Wada
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [VFB] Booby fly line setup?


Hi VFB,

I have a question, especially directed to our European fly fishers, who
might fish booby patterns.

Booby patterns are fly patterns that float on a short leader above a fast
sinking full-sink line.  The object, as I understand it, is to have the line
sitting on the bottom of the stillwater, and with a jerky retrieve, the fly
dives toward the bottom.  Stop, and the fly floats upward to the extent of
the leader length.  Advice I have seen, suggests to use a tippet length that
will put the fly six inches above the tops of the weeds.

The problem is the combination of a fast sinking weight forward line, a
bulky, but lightweight fly, and a very short leader... is a stinkeroo
casting combo.

I have been researching what to do here, and am considering the following
combinations:

1.  Attach a length of Rio T14  (tungsten-impregnated level line) via loop
connectors, between the line and leader.  T14 sinks at about 9 inches per
second, I think the figure was 14 grains weight per foot.
There is the same type of line available at lighter, slower sink version,
and also one that is heavier, faster sink.  The question would be, what
length of T14 would be a good starting point for experimentation?  Please
note that this strategy does not suggest any alteration to your normal full
sink fly line.

2. Get a full sinking line about two line weights over your rod weight
designation. Chop off about 20 feet of line off the front end. Attach leader
and fly.  Add a length of T14, if necessary.  This creates a fast sinking
shooting head that does a good job of "lobbing" the fly, and quickly sinks
to the bottom, maintaining the ideal leader length.

3. I am told the following solution has been used by competition fly
fishers.  You use eight feet of leader, with the top fly about 2 feet from
the leader/line connection, and a point fly on the end of a tapered 8 ft.
leader.  This creates a leader that casts more normally.
 One booby fly is positioned slightly above the lake bottom, the other is as
much as eight feet off the bottom.  When the combination is jerked
repeatedly, the top fly can dive a good three or four feet.
These booby flies have been designed to have the leader pass down the center
axis of the top fly.  That way, the fly never spins the leader.

Those are the possibilities I am seeing so far.  Each has advantages and
disadvantages.

What do you think might work best?  Any other ideas?  What is a typical
European booby line/leader setup?

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Finally did some serious booby fishing about a week ago, and had a trout
take the fly near the shoreline.  Was very interesting to see the fish's
reaction to the fly.

Thanks,

Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon



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