Strategic move to wait for others to lay the goodies all out in front of us.
Like we say in Sweden: "Riding on a schrimp sandwich"...

Spoilt or not... it sure is my kind of sandwich. ;o)

/Jester


  -----Original Message-----
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on
Behalf Of Don Ordes
  Sent: 13 September 2009 05:51
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: fly tying costs


  Yeah, Nick,
  Don't even speak of genetic hackle back where I lived tying in the 60's-
'cause there wernt nun.  I remember the drooling in the flyshops over every
new genetic advances Mr. Hoffman was making in the late 70's and early 80's
with his grizzly necks.  If we had a sweet spot of two inches to tie one
nice fly, we were in 7th heaven.  It's just hard to believe what Dr. Tom and
others are doing these days, especially with saddles.

  The advances in fly rods are also amazing.  Bamboo is nice (I have 3
rods), but when it gets serious, I'll take a modern graphite any day.  The
wind here usually ends any thoughts of fishing with finesse.

  Everything's gotten so much better, and you and Jester are just spoilt.

  DonO
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Niclas Runarsson
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:37 AM
    Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: fly tying costs


    That's why some of us are still young. We didn't want to be the first
tiers on earth. No point in being born in
    an era of hardly anything to chose from, when there were better times
(and hackle quality) to come.

    Right Jester?    "Huh... did you say something?"

    /Nick

      -----Original Message-----
      From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on
Behalf Of Don Ordes
      Sent: 12 September 2009 18:44
      To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
      Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: fly tying costs


      When I got into tying 45 or so years ago, it cost me nothing, per say.
I tied with my fingers- no vise or bobbins, used dressmakers scissors,
feathers from my pillow or BB-gun shot birds off the fence, and the like.
Tied bluegill and panfish flies that caught one fish each, if I was lucky.

      1st actual tying kit was $29.95 from Sears in the early 60's.  So yes
I got in cheap.  50 years later it's a hobby-business & fishing support
activity and I have $30,000+- in materials, hooks, tools, etc.   Call it an
investment.

      In late 50s and early 60s New Orleans, there was nothing to buy for
flyfishing.  My kit had to be ordered, as was everything else.  Nothing in
stores, no books, obviously no videos or DVDs, but also no tutors,
computers, flyfishers in family, etc.  This ws live bait country, and heavy
lures were considered the fringe.  Had no ideas except the few articles that
were in Field and Stream, the only magazine my dad got, us being hunters
1st.  What I would have given back then for a copy of The Fly Shop catalog
and a Benchside Reference.  But maybe learning the hard way built
appreciation.  Who knows?  Maybe I'm making up now for the stuff I never
could have when I was young.

      Buggs, what do you think?     "Zzzzzzzzzzzzz"

      DonO

      ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jeff Frye
        To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:58 PM
        Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: fly tying costs


              I have a buddy that is the only guy I know that saves money
tying flies. He ties 10 patterns that he believes he can take just about
anywhere and only owns the stuff for them. His whole kit fits in a shoebox.
If he gets somewhere that requires a special, he just buys 'em.












      


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