The Sowbug is a whole different concept. It is a show for tyers and we want to 
have new and old tyers. We care nothing about how long they have tied just that 
they can converse with others and tie a fair fly. We like to have tyers that 
can do some thing different and can show how they do it. The next Sowbug will 
have a couple of young tyers that have never tied at a show. They would never 
be considered for the Conclave. Maybe this why we have a waiting list for 
tyers, we can only handle 130 tyers max and why we went to a three day show..
I am glad you feel you have come a long way with this.
I have other comments but will contact you off list about that.

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Jeff Frye <> wrote:

From: Jeff Frye <>
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 6:11 PM

Tony, tyer attendance is low because the tying chair is working off the same 
list every year. We have over 100 FFF members in our club and nobody got asked 
to tie. In fact no contact was made to our club to see if anybody was 
interested in tying nor has there ever been any contact of that sort. Last year 
the Junior Tyer of the Year was not invited. When you work off the same list 
every year, some folks die, some move away and some just stop showing up. It 
doesn't take a wizard to figure that you eventually have a sparse room. 2 years 
ago, when our club put on
 the Conclave, I convinced Toby to come back after he swore he would never tie 
again. I called Bear and asked him to please invite Toby and he told me to have 
him send in 6 flies for review and he'd get back to him. When I started coming
 to Sowbug, I barely knew how to tie. You told me I'd be just fine and I was. I 
haven't missed my session since. Since then we've been able to add 3 more folks 
from here to the roster. I could fix it but that ain't gonna happen.

From: Anthony Spezio <>
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 5:33:34 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave

It was good to see a number of list members and I agree, the tyer attendance 
was a bit low.
See you all back at the Sowbug.

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Dail Graham <> wrote:

From: Dail Graham <>
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:25 PM

Tony- You looked good tying at conlave.  Saw 
alot of tying buddies it was good to see them.  Good conclave but I feel 
they were short on tyers but the ones who tied did a good job..  I  
enjoyed the conclave.  We had 8 Tri-Lakes members show up, We need to do 
better next time.It was good to see you up and going, keep 
well.   Peggy and  Mark  sure were going strong as 
usual.  I  got to visit with a few other list members 
also.   Dail Graham

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:46 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave

      Just had several tyers come by to say so long for now. 
        Most will be back for Sowbug.
Had a nice visit with several list 
        members. Jerry the visit with you was no more than a hand shake.. It 
        seems there is not enough time to really visit.

--- On 
        Sun, 10/4/09, J McK <> 

          J McK <>
          [VFB] conclave
To: "Fly Swap" 
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 
          11:26 AM

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Hey Gang
Got to the conclave on Saturday, 
          visted with Tony and Mark, watched many tyers and
had a all round 
          good time.
CADDIS was repersented well with four members 
          I know of being there.

Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P. O. Box 
Russellville, AR 72811

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