NO One, who's tyed 11 Sowbugs should have to "submit 
flies".....imho..........that kinna deal is why we had so many empty seats at 
Conclave. That and the fact that people simply don't wanna come from far off 
and only be given two sessions........you'd have to be nuts to spend money on 
gas, tolls, (possibly a baby-sitter), resturants, "the dinner", hotel, fishing 
license, silent and live auctions, raffles, etc., etc., etc..........and only 
tye two sessions.........again..............imho.

The idea that the people won't come and support the Conclave unless all the 
tyers are nationally known is rediculas. .....whoever's commin' to Conclave is 
commin' to Conclave, because they feel the experience is gonna be worff it or 
it aint, PERIOD! Tyers/fly anglers aren't stupid........they "know" they can 
learn "somethin'" from every other tyer.....no matter who it is..........cept 
maybe some beginner.........but that level a tyer will not be in the seat. YOU, 
should be..........imho. 
 


From: d...@positech.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:04:10 -0500




Mark- I have tied at 11 sowbugs,8 rendevous. and other meets and I can tie a 
few bugs now and then.   I asked Reed and conclave if I could get on the tyers 
list for next year and he told me to submit 6 different flies and he would let 
me know if I was good enough to tie.   Man was I insulted.    BBBBBSSSSSS     
Dail Graham

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave

Seems there outta be some level of cross referencing between the two 
list.........Sowbug and Conclave. An empty seat serves no purpose. 
 


Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:49:33 -0700
From: bighawk...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Again, I was not asked. I have been told that this has always been invite only.





From: Mark Romero <markflie...@hotmail.com>
To: virtual fly box <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:28:03 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave



Toby tyed this year Jeff. i wish you would have..........we hadda lotta empty 
seats.........
 


Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:11:29 -0700
From: bighawk...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Tony, tyer attendance is low because the tying chair is working off the same 
list every year. We have over 100 FFF members in our club and nobody got asked 
to tie. In fact no contact was made to our club to see if anybody was 
interested in tying nor has there ever been any contact of that sort. Last year 
the Junior Tyer of the Year was not invited. When you work off the same list 
every year, some folks die, some move away and some just stop showing up. It 
doesn't take a wizard to figure that you eventually have a sparse room. 2 years 
ago, when our club put on the Conclave, I convinced Toby to come back after he 
swore he would never tie again. I called Bear and asked him to please invite 
Toby and he told me to have him send in 6 flies for review and he'd get back to 
him. When I started coming to Sowbug, I barely knew how to tie. You told me I'd 
be just fine and I was. I haven't missed my session since. Since then we've 
been able to add 3 more folks from here to the roster. I could fix it but that 
ain't gonna happen.





From: Anthony Spezio <bambot...@yahoo.com>
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 5:33:34 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave





It was good to see a number of list members and I agree, the tyer attendance 
was a bit low.
See you all back at the Sowbug.
Tony

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Dail Graham <d...@positech.net> wrote:


From: Dail Graham <d...@positech.net>
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:25 PM



Tony- You looked good tying at conlave.  Saw alot of tying buddies it was good 
to see them.  Good conclave but I feel they were short on tyers but the ones 
who tied did a good job..  I  enjoyed the conclave.  We had 8 Tri-Lakes members 
show up, We need to do better next time.It was good to see you up and going, 
keep well.   Peggy and  Mark  sure were going strong as usual.  I  got to visit 
with a few other list members also.   Dail Graham

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave





Just had several tyers come by to say so long for now. Most will be back for 
Sowbug.
Had a nice visit with several list members. Jerry the visit with you was no 
more than a hand shake.. It seems there is not enough time to really visit.
Tony

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, J McK <woodenleg...@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: J McK <woodenleg...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [VFB] conclave
To: "Fly Swap" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 11:26 AM




 
Hey Gang
 
Got to the conclave on Saturday, visted with Tony and Mark, watched many tyers 
and
had a all round good time.
 
CADDIS was repersented well with four members I know of being there.

Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P. O. Box 9104
Russellville, AR 72811
www.caddisflyfishers.org






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