NO One, who's tyed 11 Sowbugs should have to "submit flies".....imho..........that kinna deal is why we had so many empty seats at Conclave. That and the fact that people simply don't wanna come from far off and only be given two sessions........you'd have to be nuts to spend money on gas, tolls, (possibly a baby-sitter), resturants, "the dinner", hotel, fishing license, silent and live auctions, raffles, etc., etc., etc..........and only tye two sessions.........again..............imho.
The idea that the people won't come and support the Conclave unless all the tyers are nationally known is rediculas. .....whoever's commin' to Conclave is commin' to Conclave, because they feel the experience is gonna be worff it or it aint, PERIOD! Tyers/fly anglers aren't stupid........they "know" they can learn "somethin'" from every other tyer.....no matter who it is..........cept maybe some beginner.........but that level a tyer will not be in the seat. YOU, should be..........imho. From: d...@positech.net To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:04:10 -0500 Mark- I have tied at 11 sowbugs,8 rendevous. and other meets and I can tie a few bugs now and then. I asked Reed and conclave if I could get on the tyers list for next year and he told me to submit 6 different flies and he would let me know if I was good enough to tie. Man was I insulted. BBBBBSSSSSS Dail Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave Seems there outta be some level of cross referencing between the two list.........Sowbug and Conclave. An empty seat serves no purpose. Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:49:33 -0700 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave To: email@example.com Again, I was not asked. I have been told that this has always been invite only. From: Mark Romero <markflie...@hotmail.com> To: virtual fly box <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:28:03 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave Toby tyed this year Jeff. i wish you would have..........we hadda lotta empty seats......... Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:11:29 -0700 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave To: email@example.com Tony, tyer attendance is low because the tying chair is working off the same list every year. We have over 100 FFF members in our club and nobody got asked to tie. In fact no contact was made to our club to see if anybody was interested in tying nor has there ever been any contact of that sort. Last year the Junior Tyer of the Year was not invited. When you work off the same list every year, some folks die, some move away and some just stop showing up. It doesn't take a wizard to figure that you eventually have a sparse room. 2 years ago, when our club put on the Conclave, I convinced Toby to come back after he swore he would never tie again. I called Bear and asked him to please invite Toby and he told me to have him send in 6 flies for review and he'd get back to him. When I started coming to Sowbug, I barely knew how to tie. You told me I'd be just fine and I was. I haven't missed my session since. Since then we've been able to add 3 more folks from here to the roster. I could fix it but that ain't gonna happen. From: Anthony Spezio <bambot...@yahoo.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 5:33:34 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave It was good to see a number of list members and I agree, the tyer attendance was a bit low. See you all back at the Sowbug. Tony --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Dail Graham <d...@positech.net> wrote: From: Dail Graham <d...@positech.net> Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave To: email@example.com Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:25 PM Tony- You looked good tying at conlave. Saw alot of tying buddies it was good to see them. Good conclave but I feel they were short on tyers but the ones who tied did a good job.. I enjoyed the conclave. We had 8 Tri-Lakes members show up, We need to do better next time.It was good to see you up and going, keep well. Peggy and Mark sure were going strong as usual. I got to visit with a few other list members also. Dail Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Spezio To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: conclave Just had several tyers come by to say so long for now. Most will be back for Sowbug. Had a nice visit with several list members. Jerry the visit with you was no more than a hand shake.. It seems there is not enough time to really visit. Tony --- On Sun, 10/4/09, J McK <woodenleg...@hotmail.com> wrote: From: J McK <woodenleg...@hotmail.com> Subject: [VFB] conclave To: "Fly Swap" <email@example.com> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 11:26 AM Hey Gang Got to the conclave on Saturday, visted with Tony and Mark, watched many tyers and had a all round good time. CADDIS was repersented well with four members I know of being there. Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. 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