I think that sometimes the wire rib also helps to define the segments of the fly and it adds a bit of weight and extra flash. For instance, a Czech nymph pattern, as tied by the originators, often has two ribs, one of gold tinsel or wire, that is used to make flash, and a clear mono that is a rib over the shell to hold it down. Weight is added separately with lead wire. Joyce
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote: > Wayne, > > There's nothing wrong with a wire rib. It's just not needed...if you rope > dub. Wire does add weight, durability (for the dubbing), and > reinforcement. But a blend of dubbing with a little flash dubbing added > will give more life-like segmentation than ribbed simulated segmentation. > Using wire for the core of the rope will give you the durability of a wire > rib, and the weight. > > Spanish Mackerel will tear up just about any fly. I rope-dub crystal ice > dub and awesome hair to a grub-shape (with a tail- like a Mr. Twister), > using stainless steel wire ot bite tippet for the rope-core. Although they > chew the dickens out of it, it keeps catching fish because it just can't > fall apart. (it'll look loke a fuzzy-grub after a few fish, then a tail-less > fuzzy grub) If they are not biting on leaders at all, them mono tippets are > the only way, using long-shank hooks with the fly tied at the back end. I > lose a lot of them- unavoidable, but they are 30 second flies to tie, so the > loss is just not that great. > > You have a dozen or so rib-less samples coming with your DVD. Let me know > if you still think you need ribbing after you look at them. And look at > them underwater, too, as that's where the fish see them. > > DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wayne Blake-Hedges <wayneb22...@yahoo.com> > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2010 2:54 PM > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos/FOTW > > Hi Gary; > > I really like this one too! Kinda a cross between Dave Whitlocks fox > squirrell nymph and a Czech nymph. > > DonO: > > What's the advantage of not using a wire rib? I always thought the wire > rib served two purposes, a little flash and secondly it add reinforcement to > the dubbing. > > Wayne > > --- On *Fri, 9/10/10, glw...@gundluth.org <glw...@gundluth.org>* wrote: > > > From: glw...@gundluth.org <glw...@gundluth.org> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos/FOTW > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 2:36 PM > > (Embedded image moved to file: pic02732.jpg) > > John Bethke's Pink Squirrel Nymph- This fly pattern recipe has a wire rib, > which I would delete > in favor of a dubbing mix that will segment and look the same without a > rib. Use a little gold in the dubbing > blend if you want the flash, and that will accent the segments. > > > DonO > > Thanks for the critique. You're right. I tried to stay too close to the > originator's recipe. > And I could have rope dubbed the wire for the durabilitiy factor. I'll > get better > I hope. Back to the DVD and paying closer attention. LOL > > Background: > > John Bethke has said that he was frustrated by trout hitting his Bio-Strike > indicator. > So he went home and found he had some shell pink chenille that was a pretty > close match colorwise. > > Here is his description of his fly: > > (See attached file: Pink Squirrel by John Bethke.docx) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
