If double hauling is your thing and you need to reach way out and shoot line, then the slickness of the guides will dramatically help your cast. Buy the very best ceramic inserts you can buy. Don't buy the cheap knock offs, buy Fuji and do all the guides, the stripper, and the tip top. Begin each fishing session with a clean and lubricated line or none of this will amount to much. Personally I would only do this on salt water rods or maybe salmon or steelhead rods. If you are casting beyond 50 or so feet in fresh water for trout then I have to question how you can cast to a particular rising fish, or see even a size 14 adams, let alone a size 20 midge. Or for that matter, how do you get a good drift with multiple currents between you and the fish?
Just to give you guys an idea of how gimmicky this stuff can be, just a decade ago teflon coated guides were available for custom rod builders and they didn't last long. Unfortunately fishing equipment is subject to the same rules of consumerism as anything else. Consumers get bored with otherwise outstanding products if they are not tweaked and labeled "improved" over last year's model. If you look over time, the first guides were just a tip top guide and you beached the fish after swinging a brace of a dozen or more flies through a pool of fish. Then someone decided they wanted to retrieve the line, so they added trumpet guides and then later floppy ring guides sometime around or after the Civil War. Snake guides were used prior to the turn of the century, but didn't catch on for a couple of decades. After WW2 there were several short lived guides with cork screws or other catchy gimmicks. REC recoil guides are interesting, but they have yet to saturate the market. Buy what makes you happy, and rest easy that if you don't like them, they are fairly inexpensive compared to anything else going on the rod and they can be replaced if you don't like them. A lot of this is psychological. So if you have already made up in your mind what will make you happy on a rod, then by all means satisfy that desire. If you build a rod you love, then you will fish it more often, and that is a good thing. The Sharkskin lines cast a lot like the old silk lines. They make a lot of noise, but they do cast well. But I don't have much need for long distance casts. Scott On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net>wrote: > I think the slickness of the guides, and the shape of the guides on the > regular eyes that have the (usually plastic) inserts, if those are oval, > round etc, I would think that would speed up, or slow down a line. My 1 1/2 > cents worth, Chuck > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ordes" <f...@tribcsp.com> > > To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- guides > > > > Rene, >> I dunno... the slickness of the guide material would seem to be more >> important than the shape, it you're like shooting the line. Otherwise, it >> don't seem to matter much. >> That new Sharkskin flyline claims to move thru the guides easier. >> Anyone use that yet? >> >> D >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Zillmann" < >> rene.zillm...@t-online.de> >> To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- >> >> >> Hi Don, >>> to the snake/loop guides. When I look at my forecast and with the snake >>> guides, the line sticks more at the rod's blank, than with single foot >>> guides. they ensure a bit more distance. Fo the backcast I see no >>> difference in this point. >>> your thought? >>> Rene >>> >>> Don Ordes wrote: >>> >>>> This is a question for our intrepid Tony the Tiger. >>>> I have both loop guides (single foot) and snake guides (double foot), >>>> and I can't feel a difference. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3143 - Release Date: 09/18/10 > 01:34:00 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
