Yes it does. The small valley of water with a leader in the middle of it 
changes the light angle and on a mirror surface (viewed from underneath) you 
might as well use 10# test.

DonO

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Some observations about fly movement under water- Act 3


        Hi DonO;

        So, with tippet showing up due to surface tension, does a floatant with 
it's subsequent effects just make it show up even more?

        Wayne

        --- On Mon, 12/20/10, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:


          From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
          Subject: Re: [VFB] Some observations about fly movement under water- 
Act 3
          To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
          Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 9:43 PM


          The problem with people with scuba gear is that they seldom look up.  
I agree with almost everything they say, but it all has to be qualified in an 
apples-to-apples comparison.

          Everything changes with flourocarbon tippets, only as far as 
underwater goes.  Flourocarbon just disappears on a vertical plane, but shows 
up in a horizontal plane, and in varying degrees between those two.

          Any leader in the surface film looks like a rope.  Not because of the 
line itself, but because of the surface tension of the water.

          DonO

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          Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:37 AM
          Subject: Re: [VFB] Some observations about fly movement under water


          > There have been some people who have put on the the scuba gear
          > and observed trout feeding and what they "see" underwater.
          > Gary La Fontaine and Ralph Cutter  are two that come to mind.
          > 
          > Check numbers 3 and 4 from Mr. Cutter.
          > 
          > http://www.flyline.com/tips_trivia/myths_legends_lies/
          > 
          > 
          > Gary L Webb
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