Maybe someone who was in the last hook swap can tell us what the quality of the Hangensfish hooks were like???
Not only 'where' is important, but 'how' and of 'what' steel? There are wire hooks and forged hooks, and the stock , metalurgy, and batching processes need to be controlled and consistent. What is the QC program? We know the Chinese lack in this regard. How well controlled is the wire selection and manufactiring processes? A Chinese-made hook with German steel and controlled Japanese processes might be a good hook, regardless of make nowadays. There are the different properties of the hook, also- the point, the barb, the shape, eye, finish, etc. I've gotten a lot of name-brand hooks with crushed or un-bent eyes and mal-formed points or barbs. I got an untempered Mustad hook one time that I twisted and absurd amount and it never broke. I've gotten bronzed hooks that rust, too. How good is the plating on the saltwater hooks, and the quality of the stainless steel hooks for big-game flies? DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Worm To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks I am curious as to where various hooks are manufactured now? Any hook experts out there? Tiemco- Still Japan? Ties with Umpqua Feather Merchants. Mustad- All operations now in China Daiichi- Still Japan? DaiRiki- Japan? Korea? Partridge- England, but now? Eagle Claw- USA? Eric Worm Reed City, MI 49677 "And when it all goes well, when your dog does the difficult and does it with style, what you get isn't a bagged bird but the honor of sharing a moment of penultimate drama starring the dog you love and the bird you love. That is a taste of heaven, friends, and it's why the dog man hunts. And frankly, most of us kick through one hell of a lot of weeds between glimpses of Heaven." -Steve Grooms ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Neville Gosling <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 8:16:25 AM Subject: [VFB] Hagensfish hooks Hi Rick: I'm not sure how this works without knowing the choice of other participants otherwise there is the possibility of duplication of popular style and size. Does each participant receive 1000 hooks? Are the hooks genuine Dai-riki (not to be confused with Daiichi) or a chinese knock-off? The hook number system appears similar to Dai-Riki's. I looked at the hopper style but they are $70.44 per 1000. When Dai-Riki first came out (Dan Baileys) they were made in Japan, then later in Korea, now ???? Mustad hooks are now made in China and Mustad have been hemorrhaging big $ and have just been taken over by another Norwegian company or financial group. Although I still use certain Mustad and Partridge hooks (made in the same Chinese Mustad owned chinese factory) I must admit that I don't have the same confidence that I have with a japanese hook. Maybe it is because the Japanese made such good swords and their steel is excellent. Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-01-02, at 2:31 PM, Rick Zieger wrote: Choose a hook style from the hooks at Hagensfish.com. Dai-Riki I think. Hooks are from $55 to $65/thousand. Add 10% for excise tax and $5.00 for postage. I will divinded the hooks up by weight on a scale at the chemistry deparmten tof the local University. You will get equal numbers of hooks in several sytles and sizes. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
