Sooo, I have some Coq de Leon would it be better to use than the moose quills? I thought as I read that the advantage of the moose quills was they helped to float the fly. I have to admit not knowing or noticing if the Coq de Leon did the same on the pattern I tied.
Mike On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Mike, LOL > > I'm glad someone is paying attention. I have deer and moose patches where > 10% of the hollow body hairs end up with sharp, non-hollow, black tips from > 1/2" to 3/4" long. They end up functioning like guard hairs, but they are > not really, at least in my book. I have not found them on elk yet. > > I cut a hank of hair off the hide like I would be spinning a muddler. But > I grasp the very end of the tips and pull out a half dozen of these > dual-diameter hairs. I group and stack them and then cut most of the hollow > bases off and tie the 6 or so fibers to the shank of the hook like I would > do feather quill tails. The hollow bases are a good anchor and the tips > are fine and stiff and float well with a little floatant, plus they are > very durable. At one time I even tried hackling dry flies with these. It > worked, but was of no real advantage for the extra effort. > > Since Dr. Whiting came out with his Coq de Leon tailing packs, I've > replaced the moose and deer with those, and love the performance and look. > > I'm re-arranging my fly room and it is a monumental task, but it should > cut the clutter down to half and make it easier to find everything. > Everything will be labeled, so if I put everything back where it's supposed > to be, I'll be able to remember where to find things, which I can't do > now. Everything was a search and thus a lot of time was wasted just > looking for something. When I find these patches, I'll take a pic and post > it. > > I did find a cape that was moth infested, but they were contained in the > zipped bag, and I was thankful for that. They had about eaten the whole > cape. Everything is getting a few moth crystals for good measure. I > wonder if it's head cement plus moth crystals that spawned Dr. D and Buggs. > > DonO > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Bliss <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2012 6:08 PM > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? > > Oh, oh so is it moose quill or goose quill. Don, I am the last person to > make fun of typing mistake if that is what it is. I just thought there was > something out there I had not heard about. > > Mike > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Allan Fish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> NAW. Mike. It's from one of the feathers >> >> On 11/5/12 8:00 PM, Michael Bliss wrote: >> >> Don, >> >> I will expose my ignorance, what is a moose quill? Where is it on the >> moose? Is it the mane? >> >> Mike >> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Pete, >>> I also tie mine with stiff moose quill tails- much more durable and >>> floatable than pheasant crest. >>> The kip wings take a lot of floatant and thus ride high and are very >>> visable on rough western rivers & waters. This is what Lee Wulff had in >>> mind. >>> >>> DonO >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Peter Gramp <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2012 1:32 PM >>> *Subject:* [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? >>> >>> So I have the day off and when I sat down at my vise to tie up 6 dozen >>> Royal Coachmen dry flies in various sizes to restock my nearly empty >>> flyboxes, I thought I knew the pattern by heart. Then I glanced over at >>> the "Benchside Reference" and on the cover is what looks to be a royal >>> coachman with calf tail wings... not with the duck quill slip wings that I >>> originally thought. I tried looking up the pattern on google and in >>> YouTube, but what I found was that about half of the recipes and/or >>> pictures said upright quill wings, and the other half said calf tail >>> upright. So I'm curious, what should the wings be for this pattern? I'm >>> sure that either would work for catching trout, but I'm curious what the >>> original pattern called for. (the calf tail wings remind me more of a >>> Wulff than a Coachman, for what it is worth, but what do I know) For such >>> a famous pattern, you would think that the recipe would be the same from >>> one website source to another, but that's not what I found. >>> Any help would be great! >>> -Pete >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Bliss >> Aloha from Hawaii >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> >> >> -- >> Allan Fish >> Greenwood, [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> > > > > -- > Mike Bliss > Aloha from Hawaii > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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