Yep - it happens to all of us!!

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I am sure it has happened to all of us. You tye a dozen flies at the same
> tile. All are the same pattern. Tye one on and smash the fish one after
> another. Break off and tye on another one and the fish will not touch it.
> Try another and you start catching fish again.
> Also you might be catching fish on a fly in the morning and then you go
> out in the evening and they will not touch it.
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:11 AM, Jack Harford <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Excellent Points Don!! Sometimes I think that with all the reasons why the
> fish don't bite it is a wonder that any fish at all catch our flies. And
> your points reinforce the premise that fish have certain instinctual traits
> built into their character and behavior that effect how, when, and how much
> they feed.
>
> Here is Indiana, maybe about 90% of my fishing is done between 7pm and too
> dark to see the fly. Partially because of my job, but mostly because of the
> experience of landing about 80% of the fish during that time. It is also
> nice that there is a nice smallmouth bass creek two blocks from the home.
> Mornings are good too, but I am not much of a morning person :)
>
> But again, like Don was saying, each species and even each fish is
> different so the knowledge base is almost infinite. That may be one of the
> attractions of this sport. There is always something more to learn.  The
> possibility of a fish catching the fly increases with the number of casts,
> time on the water, attention to detail, and amount learned while out there
> (and in the library too).
>
> tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Nice article, but there are more than 3 or 4 things that affect fish, i.e.
> what matters to them.
>
> Not all fish behave the same way, but all need the 3 mentioned necessities
> to some degree, so I agree to a big extent.
>
> *Other factors that affect whether a fish will feed or not:*
>
> -Weather- barometric readings affect fish and feeding.
> -Lunar cycles- the moon’s cycles affect fish, therefore,
> -Day vs night activity, or light sensitivity, or night-time sleep cycles,
> or feeding on a full moon and not at all the day after.
> -Fishing pressure – related to shelter as to security, but different,
> especially if the fish are caught and released. They may think the fly is
> food, but that leader tells them not to catch it.
> -Water conditions-  pollution, run-offs (muddy), water too warm or too
> cold or changing rapidly.
> -Saltwater estuaries- tide is not right, waiting for the tide (no source
> of nourishment until the tide brings din-din to them)
> -Deep sea fish- feed is just off, not in mood to eat. Live bait doesn’t
> matter, even boinking them on the nose with it. (Time to find something in
> the cooler to wait it out or head back in.)
>
> Another good discussion. Anybody want to add anything?
>
> DonO
>
> *From:* Jack Harford <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 8:36 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] QFTD
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Here is an opinion page that was written for our fly fishing club
> newsletter on this subject. Differing opinions gladly accepted :)
>
> Tight lines,
> Jack
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming."
>
> John Steinbeck                        "The Fisherman's Guide to Life"
>
> Rick
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