I agree with everyone’s sentiments.  I miss so many people that used to 
participate in the list.  I was so lucky to see Allan Fish a couple years ago 
when I was speaking at a conference in Indianapolis.  I still have the CD that 
Mark from Louisiana did - music for Fly Tying and Feather Plucking, I believe.  
I enjoy watching tying videos made by Tony and Don and reading the books Jimmy 
wrote.  I too still have a bunch of the feathers from the hackle swaps.  I also 
have a mouse tied by Don that I won in his first rope dub contest.  I live 
within a couple of hours of Rick but somehow we have still never seen each 
other outside of Sowbug many years ago.  Time marches on but I have many fond 
memories of the Virtual FlyBox list and am glad Byard started that family.  
Best regards to all!  I look forward to seeing Rene again in a few weeks!  (And 
anyone else who happens to be in Mountain Home at the time)

Sincerely,
Bruce

> On Mar 9, 2025, at 5:26 PM, Michael Bliss <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I miss all those folks and with fondness.  Tony and Alan Fish were (are) the 
> best of the best.  Nice to see Byard lurking.  I was just reviewing my hackle 
> the other day and still have hackle from the hackle swaps we used to do.  I 
> wish I could come this year but we have so much going on this year that it 
> will have to wait.  I miss the early time with this group and as Byard 
> mentioned with the old flyfish@ group.  Hope all of you stay healthy and 
> well. 
> 
> Mike Bliss
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 3:03 PM Gary L Webb <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> My wife and I would love to get back again. On our only trip there Tony tied 
>> us one of his Froggies. But she  is in a wheelchair these days.  So we don't 
>> do many long trips.   
>> 
>> On Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 8:31:07 PM UTC-6 Byard Miller wrote:
>>> I see my name has been mentioned. The memories of VFB and Fkyfish@ are 
>>> fondly and often in my mind. Sadly a scenario not to be repeated. By those 
>>> of us involved I presume. We’ve lost many so close to our hearts. I hope we 
>>> meet up with them all again when our time comes. 
>>> 
>>> On a personal update I’ve recently left behind snow shoveling and grass 
>>> mowing for the south east climes of Arizona. Sadly no nearby trout or any 
>>> fishing opportunities. But other interests fill in those voids and I can 
>>> always venture into other near or far waters. I would like to seek out an 
>>> Apache Trout sometime soon. 
>>> 
>>> It’s nice to see there are some still monitoring the ancient VFB list. 
>>> 
>>> Regards to all my special friends!
>>> 
>>> Keep tyin’ … Byard
>>> 
>>> Sent from Byard's iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 8, 2025, at 2:31 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I will not make SowBug this year. 
>>>> Rick 
>>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 01:31:59 PM CST, Neville Gosling 
>>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I agree, Rick Ziger has done an exemplary job of keeping the facebook 
>>>> group alive but it is not doing particularly well. Why? I think that there 
>>>> are so many other groups and diversions online and new people coming 
>>>> online will never have what we had when VFB was very popular when Byard 
>>>> Miller started it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Rick………
>>>> 
>>>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>>>> 
>>>> > On Mar 8, 2025, at 10:54, Rene Zillmann <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hi Nev,
>>>> > 
>>>> > you are right, we lost a lot of members from the list and even the 
>>>> > Facebook group is rather quite, even if Rick tries to keep it alive.
>>>> > 
>>>> > I'm really looking forward to the trip. Everything is setup, flights, 
>>>> > car, lodging. Hopefully we will not get ill in advance of the travel.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Best wishes
>>>> > 
>>>> > Rene´
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 3/8/25 18:33, Neville Gosling wrote:
>>>> >> Have a good time at the Sowbug Rene and enjoy fishing in Arkansas! I 
>>>> >> was there in 2011 and really enjoyed it. Unfortunately the original VFB 
>>>> >> members like Tony Spezio, Alan Fish and others have passed away, but 
>>>> >> the sowbug itself should still be very good and enjoyable.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Unfortunately, with Trump in power and his plan to annex Canada, I 
>>>> >> likely will never visit USA again and I will move back to England if 
>>>> >> Trump is successful.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Best wishes…….Neville Gosling, Greater Vancouver, BC  Canada.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >>> On Mar 8, 2025, at 09:21, Rene Zillmann <[email protected] <>> 
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Gang,
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> not sure who is still reading the list, but anyway.
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> This plan became reality, we will enter the airplane in less than 2 
>>>> >>> weeks, stay 2 days in Mempohis and than drive to Mnt.home to do some 
>>>> >>> serious fishing and than be at the sowbug.
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Who else will be there? I know from Peggy, Bruce Whittle. and Jeff 
>>>> >>> Hines. Anyone else?
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Best
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Rene´ Zillmann
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> On 2/20/24 15:51, Rene Zillmann wrote:
>>>> >>>> Folks,
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> maybe I do it again. Son is just talking me into going to the sowbug 
>>>> >>>> 2025 with him, and spend also some time for serious fishing. It is a 
>>>> >>>> father and son trip, not so much father and child. And my 4th visit 
>>>> >>>> at the event.
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> We are in an very early phase of investigation, so the outcome is not 
>>>> >>>> clear, and we also might do something very different.
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Anyway: Current plan is to fly in one week before the Sowbug, fish a 
>>>> >>>> very nice area for trout or warmwater, go the Sowbug. We need to 
>>>> >>>> return on Saturday, so we could only spend 2 days at the sowbug.
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Currently we are looking for an area for this initial fishery, as it 
>>>> >>>> is early in the year we are looking somehow South. One Idea is: Fly 
>>>> >>>> to Memphis, drive to Great Smokey Mountains (Near Knoxville) Do some 
>>>> >>>> Fishing, drive to the Sowbug, Attend Sowbug and return to Germany via 
>>>> >>>> Memphis. A bit of driving, though.
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Any other ideas or suggestions?
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Thanks a lot
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Rene from Germany
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