Hi all, This is Kevin's first swap,there appears to be little interest in it at the moment,i met KEVIN through this list a year or so ago and now have a very good fishing buddy,a sound bloke very pleasant chap and a good fisherman and tyer to boot.I have no doubt this will be an extremely good swap and i am in straight away..I will tye a olive parachute.Kevin has assured me that he will be spending a lot less time boatbuilding so that he can concentrate on the swap..We all were virgin swapmasters at one stage and i feel it's only right that we jump on board this swap,well that's my 2 cent's worth,come on now..
Talk to u all soon.. Regards, Denis.. >>From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing >>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:06:42 -0000 >> >>To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies >>wether >>it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings from >>either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I >>think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more and >>more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested let >>me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I know >>that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for >>some >>of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected here >>in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is >>and >>we will go with the majority. >> >>Kevin >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM >>Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing >> >> >> > Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to >>add >>my two >> > cents. >> > >> > My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that the >>hackle only >> > imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see >>much >>more, >> > this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe the >>fish's >> > excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also imitates >>the >>flutter >> > of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. >>Variants >>or >> > American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering >>imitations. If >> > this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a >>dry >>fly. >> > >> > We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional quill >>segment >> > winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish willing >>to >>take the >> > drifting insect. >> > >> > Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with >>divided or >> > single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the >>winging method >> > for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to >>provoke >>a >>take. >> > >> > Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each >>school >>of >> > thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the >>other >>will >> > limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the >>"Behaviourist's" >> > school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry >>Fly >>as a >> > Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue with >>fish: >> > wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly >>construction >> > techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. >> > >> > Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, inspect >>it, >>and >> > disappear." >> > What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? >> > >> > Calm days >> > Wally Lutz >> > >> > Edson AB >> > Lifetime TUC Member >> > >> > http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html >> > >> > " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the >>free >>gift of >> > God." >> > >> > >> > Arthur Ransome >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> > > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it >>goes. >>I >> > > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look >>better and >> > > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is >>the >> > > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they >>see >>is the >> > > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the >>Flightless >> > > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and >>tied >>the >> > > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The >>Mosquito >> > > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and >>without >> > > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only >>use >>one >> > > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds >>intresting. >> > > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would >>like >>to >> > > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Bart >> > >> >> >>_________________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > Denis Goulding _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
