Hi Rene,
you asked for it. Scotland has an ancient tradition in loch fishing from a
drifting boat where the water was originally searched with shortline casts.
Fish would be persuaded to rise to flies very different to those of Halford.
All the best 
Graeme.

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Cast only to fish I see & Nymphs & Saltwater - not
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Jimmy, Don and others.

I agree, nowadays flyfishing is not 'sight fishing' - for most of us. But in
the old days (in England) it was only allowed to cast to rising fish. And if
there was no fish rising - the gentlemen tool place on benches and waited
for the next ring....

But I have to admit, sight fishing can be very thrillingly. Last year I had
such a experience. Water was gin-clear, distance to the grayling appr. 10
feed. Could see him very well. Was really interesting to see, how the fish
reacted on the different flies and nymphs.  Although he was feeding on
nymphs he showed no interests for my offerings. Changed later to emerger and
dries, nothing. A small turkey winged green caddis (Pattern from Byard
(really) made him rise but refused. Changed to a old ugly and got a
immediately strike. Released him.

Next day: Same place, Same fish - I asume. old ugly, strike - released. Very
interesting procedure. Was appr. 15 inch long.

Still waiting that some from our UK-listeners chime in <G>

Regards
Rene
Germany
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  Von: Jimmy D. Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Datum: Montag, 10. Juni 2002 19:45
  Betreff: [VFB] Cast only to fish I see & Nymphs & Saltwater - not fly
fishing ?????


  According to the Random House College Dictionary flies are, " fish hooks
dressed with hair, feathers, silk, tinsel, etc. so as to resemble an "
insect"  or small fish for use as a lure or bait."   Again, quoting Random
House - "A nymph is a subaqueous insect or larvae of the Ephemeridae and
certain other insect species.   Thus, nymph in its broadest sense, as
applied to angling in the form of an artificial fly, may also encompass the
larvae of the caddisfly, dragonfly, cranefly and other aquatic insects." ,
ergo nymphs are flies.

  Fly Fishing - defined.  " The art of fly-casting using an insect imitation
for the capture of fish." McLanes Encyclopedia of Fishing. "Using
specialized tackle the angler casts an artificial fly for freshwater or
saltwater game fish." Ergo, saltwater fishing with a fly rod also qualifies
as fly fishing. Fishing "dry" or "wet", is the same, i.e. we cast our
fly/nymph onto the water and it either floats or sinks. If I were to cast
only to fish that I know are there, i.e. "rising fish or fish that I can
see",  my catches would dwindle and the enjoyment of searching for the fish
by casting to likely spots would be non-existent.

  Cheers,

  JIMMY

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