Good question.  I posed that same question via email to the lab. They
responded
and said simply that what we see - or don't see- is not what the fishes see-
or don't see.
Most of their research deals with tropicals, but they have done some
warmwater and freshwater
species.  Their answer was not too helpful.  Different species of fish see
UV and colors
differently, even flourscents.  They did say that they tested some
flourocarbon tippets
with their UV cameras and it was visable in UV ranges that are visable to
reef fishes.
They could not respond about trout, bass, pike, etc.  Insufficient data.

Basically, it's still up to the fisherman, and it's still a challenge to
figure out 'what they're biting on'.
So don't throw away your flourocarbons "yet".
DonO


----- Original Message -----
From: Jleavitt18 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] fish and seeing colors


> So DonO does that mean we don't have to spend the extra cash to fish with
> "invisible" fluorocarbon?
>
> Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] fish and seeing colors
>
>
> > Ultraviolet has as much to do with fish vision as color.  We (humans)
> don't
> > know
> > all of the ways they use it and see it, but they do.  Losey Labs in
Hawaii
> > is doing
> > research on just that.
> >
> > Leaders that YOU think are clear are like lazers to fish because of what
> > they
> > reflect in the ultraviolet spectrum.  And not all fish are equally set
up
> to
> > see
> > UV light.  Fish actually secrete UV absorbing or reflecting mucus (their
> > slime)
> > as required for day and night visibility or invisibility, or for
breeding,
> > identification, feeding, or evading predators.  Depth of water is also a
> big
> > factor
> > in color perception.  A fish that is a solid color to you may have
> specific
> > UV
> > patterns perceptable only to other certain fish.
> >
> > Contrast is more important than color, as is the 'strike image', or the
> > profile against
> > the background.  That's why reflections are important, and sound, and
> > movement.
> > Some lures that you can see in the water are invisable to the fish.
> That's
> > why
> > black flies and lures work so well.
> >
> > If you want more info, let me know.
> >
> > DonO
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Neal Patrick Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] fish and seeing colors
> >
> >
> > Have you read the book "Modern Streamers for Trout?" They have a whole
> > chapter on fish and their ability to see colors. Can't remeber what they
> > said. It is an excellent read though!
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/30/02 01:54PM >>>
> > Do fish see colors? ? ?
> >
> > I've been told that fish do not see "in color."
> > Fish see RED as a GREY. I guess that makes BLUE a GREY
> > also.  So what about GREEN, BROWN, YELLOW and all the
> > colors we have in fly tying material. Are we just
> > mixing and matching GREY's and shades of GREY ? ? ?
> >
> > I think birds see in "color" and I think primates see
> > colors-so what about fish? ? ?
> >
> > Kinda makes me think-any ideas? ? ?
> > George
> >
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> > George
> >
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