Jeff
There is a difference between a farmer owning land with a pond in the middle
of it and a person owning water front property on a large lake, stream,
river or ocean.  I don't think we're referring to people walking through
your yard.  I do believe it should be public access up to the high water
mark and 10 - 15 ft beyond.  People who have access to a canoe or kayak
wouldn't be threatened by hostile landowners and could enjoy fishing and
nature also.
Deb
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From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: [VFB] Leases


>   How often do you go to your local public fishery and find trash in the
> form of cans, worm containers, etc.? A lot in the places I've been look
> just like that. I would not care to have my property trashed for the
> sake of providing public access for the sake of "freedom". I am free to
> choose who gets to come on my property, the same as you get to decide
> who you invite into your home. Landowners control access whether it is
> through leases or just letting certain fish their property line. Most
> folks that are fishing actively around here, have access to ponds that
> are owned by farmers, who provide limited access to outdoorsmen who they
> know to have a healthy respect for the land. The same goes for leases.
> The landowners know who is using the land and have their names on
> contracts. This is controlled access to the resource, same as permission
> for use, only with a contract. From the outdoorsman's standpoint, a good
> lease is something that is cherished and requires diligent stewardship.
> For what it's worth, Herb Kohler is not getting rich on the lease and I
> would consider what Kohler does for the community. It probably costs at
> least that amount for attorneys to draft the terms, pay somebody to
> administrate and manage the upkeep of the property. I don't see the
> difference in these fees and the costs I pay annually for fishing
> licenses in Kansas (resident), Missouri and Arkansas (non-resident),
> park permits, trout stamps, camping fees and the like. The person using
> the resource is paying to use it. You don't just get to fish anywhere
> you want without a cost.
>
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