Sorry Ken,
perhaps I should have mentioned that I live in Shetland, the UK's most
northely isles. The freshwater lochs I fish contain trout up to 2 or 3 lbs,
with an occasional rare monster. At 60 degrees north, stuck in between the
Atlantic and the North Sea we have a lot of wind to contend with . As you
correctly say there are many different reasons for making the choice of rod.
All the best
Graeme.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken, Carolyn, Alex and Hershel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 February 2003 03:59
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Subject: Re: [VFB] #1 The sorry bluegill Fly


Graeme -- I think that may be an over-generalization.

It depends on where in North American you live.

I've got rods 4 through 10 wt (no 9wt)

However, my most used rod is an 8 wt because I most often fish for salmon.

When I lived in theYukon (or if you lived in Alaska) my most commonly used
rods were my 4 wt for grayling and 8 wt for salmon.

If I lived in eastern Canada (the Atlantic Provinces) -- I suspect my most
often used rod would be a 7 or 8 wt.

Many people who live along the Pacific Coast or (I may be generalizing here)
along the Gulf Coast would likely use their big rod more often.

Ken MacGillivray
Coquitlam BC


----- Original Message -----
From: "graeme-callander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] #1 The sorry bluegill Fly


> Its brother Graeme of the long rod here. You know we Europeans have the
> longest rods. Far longer than anything found in Texas. (sorry). LOL
> Seriously. I own one 9ft. 4wt. and my other four rods are 10ft. all for
> fresh water loch fishing. The length does help control the top dropper
when
> dibbled back through the wave. They also help when used in a float tube.
> It just seems to be the way things are done here.
> I have also noticed that generally line weights are heavier over here
also.
> My 9ft rod is for a 4 wt., but my most used rod is a 7wt.
> I do not mean to highlight differences between brothers of the angle, but
> would be interested in hearing of others preferences and why.
> All the best
> Graeme.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desert Eagle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 25 February 2003 02:28
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [VFB] #1 bluegill Fly
>
>
> John, don't you do it, you contribute so much to the list, far more than I
> ever have. Don't let a few "Ingrate" "Lurkers" cause you to leave. I will
> personally put this old disabled butt in gear to kick some serious &^%$%^
if
> I have to. You know I would do it for you, Don, Jimmy, Tony, Bayerd or a
> numerous other of my "Brothers and sisters of the "Long Rod".
> I am really getting ticked here and with the day I have had I will "Walk/
> stumble? crawl" to avenge my brothers and sisters on the list.....
> Getting pretty hot here...
> Jimi
>
>
> I think that this whole thread has gone way to far.  I have gotten emails
> attacking my willingness to help others, that is complete BS.  Ask anyone
on
> this list and they will tell you that I am one of the first people to
> respond
> when questions are asked.  So far I have only gotten these type of
responses
> from people who's email I do not recognize as long standing contributors
> i.e.: lurkers.  If your going to attack my credibility or whatever for not
> sharing my number on fly last year maybe you should take a look in the
> mirror
> and start adding some value to this list yourself!
>
>     My number one fly last year was the Jim's Special tied by Mr. Jim
> Burbank, some of you know him as Troutman in the chat room.  When Jim sent
> me
> this wonderful fly he told me to keep it to my self.  I soon saw why
because
> it is a simple to tie fly and very effective.  My number one fly could
well
> have been a damn black spider for all you people care.  It is not a life
and
> death situation, having to know one persons number one fly.  In the same
> email I declared my number one fly, I also told everyone that the sparrow,
> created by jack gartside was my number one fly for the four years previous
> to
> this last one.  But only a few people even cared to check that one out.
>
>     This whole situation disheartens me about this list.  I do my part
every
> day to respond and share knowledge of fly tying with everyone.  I have
been
> called a redneck, and a snob for not sharing right away this fly.  Who
cares
> people, some folks need to get a life.  What may work hot here may not
catch
> a darn creek chub where you live?
>
>     If you want a recipe and tying instructions you are going to have to
> email Jim Burbank.  I do not care to deal with people that are rude to me
> anymore.  You may not see any posts on the list from me for a few days, I
> need to think about wether I am staying on this for comradery or
> information.
> I can get plenty of either in the chat room and maybe it is time for me to
> step away form this list!
>
> sincerely ticked off
> john Ridderbos

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