Deb,
  I would have to agree with your teacher. If your love patterns, Kelson
is great source but Pryce-Tannatt's book still stands as one of the best
book of instructions on the subject. I prefer to tie the simpler, older
patterns though.
  The Scropes's flies pictured on the reference you gave Wes have an
interesting story of their own. The link that I find most interesting
is:
www.fedflyfishers.org/FlyTying/SALFLYER/vol_summer/more.htm
I'm working on getting the materials to tie these flies right now. 
  BTW, Scrope's book is fascinating reading. He had a great wit and has
some hilarious stories to tell. One example is the one about the river
keeper who was expected to report anything he saw that might be out of
sorts. So whenever a fresh salmon somehow came to be at his home (low
pay made them vulnerable to bribery) his wife always blindfolded him
before any sign of the fish appeared at the table. After every last
trace of the meal was gone the blindfold was removed.

Bill


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Bill
I've heard similar things said about Kelsons book.   Well I've looked at
the
book I've haven't picked up a copy of it yet.  One of my teachers had a
very
negative opinion of his instructions and illustrations.  It is
impossible to
tie a fly and have it resemble an illustration in his book.   After he
walked me through a few pages of the book I could see his point.  He had
a
gentleman try to commission him to tie all the patterns in Kelsons book
and
he turned him down for this reason.  I did pick up the Pryce Tannatt
book
recently and I am really enjoying that.
Deb
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Subject: RE: [VFB] Atlantic Salmon Flies?


> It is my understanding that it had to do with job security. Selling
> flies was a competitive business then as it is now. If you could
produce
> flies that no one else knew how to make, then you had a monopoly on
> them. I've read that that's why Blacker's instructions were so
obscure.
> It's virtually impossible to tie some of his flies in the way that he
> describes. In those days women's hats were frequently loaded with an
> unbelievable amount of feathers. As the story goes, a fly tyer named
Pat
> McKay walked into one of these hat stores in 1810 during a visit to
> Ballyshannon and discovered a wealth of exotic feathers. In order to
> have something different to sell, he began incorporating them into his
> flies. Thus began the history of the gaudy fly which peaked around the
> turn of the last century with the inky boy fiasco when people became
> aware that such exotic, complex creations weren't really necessary to
> catch salmon.
>   I have become especially interested in the earlier, plainer flies.
> I've learned to use natural dyes and have sought out the old materials
> like hog's wool, mohair and fine yarns. There is also a lot of
> interesting reading from those days about flies and fishing
>
> Bill




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