Thanks Tony...i did pick up some more tippet at Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday, as well as some more #8 hooks. A lad and his friend about the age of my oldest hit me up on flyfishing there, he wanted to get started, so i was more that willing to share the knowledge!!!
> [Original Message] > From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/22/04 9:30:46 AM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Finally!!! Joyce > > I use a 7' 5X leader with 2' of 6X tippet for most of my fishing. > Tony > > Tom Swahn Jr. wrote: > > >Hey Tony....i'm always up for those kinda stories, esp from someone that > >used to live not too far from where i am now!!!! > > > >Question for anyone/everyone....average length of leader to use...9'total?? > > > >From the end of the fly line to the fly, that is.... > > > >Had approximately 38 minutes yesterday to hit the water before a 20 minute > >drive to my youngests' softball game, and knew i had to re-rig when i got > >there. Had my truck door open while i tied new 4x on and the spool decided > >to beat me down to the river. After a couple of "Oh Nuts..." , i chased > >the spool down and clipped. Now i'm down to 28 minutes...I start to cast > >and yesterday was nothing like the day before when everything worked great. > >I do know i've got way too much on for 4x and that i've gotta trim it down > >before i head again. OH yeah..what told me i had way too much?? Catching > >brush, the back of my hat etc.. 4x about the length of my F150 WILL soften > >the fly drop on the surface but it's still way too much... > > > >Who's got the elk hide??? > > > > > >Tom-Vermont > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > >>From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > > > Date: 5/21/04 7:41:32 PM > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [VFB] Finally!!! Joyce > >> > >>I missed Joyce's message about tying in the old days. How would a young > >>lady like Joyce know about that. !!!!!!! > >>I do remember the days before waxed thread on plastic bobbins, vises > >>that turned, bobbins, Zelon, Rayon, packaged dubbing, necks with long > >>hackles, saddles with hackles that can be used for dry flies, hooks > >>smaller than sz 14 and the list goes on. > >>I could go on about how we tied flies back then but I don't want to bore > >>anyone. > >>Tony > >> > >>DonO wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Joyce is sooooooo right on. New tiers can't remember what it was like > >>>trying to get decent feathers to tie small dries 3 or 4 decades ago. A > >>> > >>> > >size > > > > > >>>range on a neck was pickled clean in no time, as many times it took two > >>>feathers to tie a decent dry. They were harder to tie with, had short > >>> > >>> > >sweet > > > > > >>>spots, and the finished product didn't look anywhere near what you see > >>>today. Tying was more of a challenge-turned-frustration than anything > >>> > >>> > >else > > > > > >>>when it came to small dry flies. If you had the money back then, you > >>> > >>> > >could > > > > > >>>wait your turn and maybe get a quality Metz, or at least what we though > >>> > >>> > >was > > > > > >>>quality, at the time. Most tiers had shoe-boxes full of necks with the > >>>middles striped out and the rest going to waste, unless they stooped to > >>>trimming hackles when all else failed. This trimming wasn't ever > >>> > >>> > >accepted > > > > > >>>commercially because of how webby the larger feathers were, and trimming > >>> > >>> > >put > > > > > >>>the webs at the tips- not good unless you wanted wet flies. This was the > >>>motivation for Henry Hoffman and others to start working on the saddles > >>> > >>> > >for > > > > > >>>dry fly use. > >>> > >>>When I got my first 'new generation' Whiting super saddles about 7 or 8 > >>>years ago, I was so engrossed in tying with them that I didn't stop tying > >>>dry flies until I had run out of hooks, about 6 or 700 flies later. I > >>>ignored everything else as I was having so much fun tying with the new > >>>stuff. Interestingly, I didn't even put a noticeable dent in the > >>> > >>> > >saddles I > > > > > >>>had after that many flies. Then I got my first cree. Wow! I tied more > >>> > >>> > >dry > > > > > >>>flies in 6 months (with pleasure) than I had in my entire life (40 years > >>> > >>> > >of > > > > > >>>tying). > >>> > >>>So I for one don't take these new feathers for granted, and Joyce and > >>> > >>> > >other > > > > > >>>long-time tiers will all agree. I can tie 8-10 flies with one hackle > >>> > >>> > >before > > > > > >>>I need the hackle-pliers to tie the tip portion. Even the old tying > >>>instructions for dry fly hackling needed to be revised. > >>> > >>>You're right Joyce. > >>>Counting flytying blessings. > >>> > >>>DonO > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: Joyce Westphal > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:03 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [VFB] Finally!!! > >>> > >>> > >>>What a great thing to live and tie today. Don't you just love it? > >>> > >>> > >Counting > > > > > >>>my blessings. Joyce > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > >>Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >--- Tom Swahn Jr (VFB # 10545) > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > >"Fishermen are born honest but they get over it.." Ed Zern > > > >"I never go to rivers to kill hecatombs of trout or, actually, any trout; I > >go to unkill parts of myself that otherwise might die.." A Few > >Premises-Nick Lyons > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > --- Tom Swahn Jr (VFB # 10545) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. "Fishermen are born honest but they get over it.." Ed Zern "I never go to rivers to kill hecatombs of trout or, actually, any trout; I go to unkill parts of myself that otherwise might die.." A Few Premises-Nick Lyons
