Wes, many, many different feathers have these after shafts, or philo plumes. And they can be used lots of different ways. I recently used them in a new way, (for me anyway) and tyed one in just behind the head, underneath the body on a streamer. I'm hoping it'll wag back and forth to give the fly even more "action." Those came from Golden Pheasent rump feathers. I've also used them as gills on nymphs, tyed along the sides of the body. One thing i've never done is trim them. That would eliminate the very reason your using them. It's that "fluffy edge" you talk about that gives them the thing(s) they're good for. I can see them actually making a real nice head, tyed in by the tip and wraped........something like an Ostrich herl would be used. Lemme know how you make out. mark.......



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Subject: RE: [VFB] Tying with aftershaft feathers
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 20:29:12 -0400

Jack Gartsides Sparrow uses these feathers as a head. When I tie it I usually trap it in a dubbing loop.

john

Wes Wada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>VFBees,
>
>I am working right now with a pattern that calls for a short collar of
>the grey pheasant aftershaft feathers. �I've never tried tying anything
>with these, and am puzzled about what the accepted tying technique is
>for these.
>
>Do I cut the fluffy edge off the feather and put it into a dubbing
>loop? �Do I roll it onto a strand of thread like dubbing?
>
>What is the best way of working with this feather for good results?
>
>Thanks,
>Wes Wada
>Bend, Oregon
>
>
>"The clock isn't ticking...it's not even plugged in."
>

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