Thanks, Byard- You 'da man!  It's been a great run!

I love the different color hats.  I just can't keep the new style ball-caps
on my head.  The wind here blows them off my head and I wave them bye-bye as
they float down the fiver.  That was the fate of the last hat you sent me.
The top of my head got sunburned after I lost it.  I'd prefer a shirt, now.
That at least can't blow off of me.  A VFB Speed-o would be nice, too.  We
could model them on your site.

DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Byard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: [VFB] The Final Word...


>
> Obviously I didn't clarify my thoughts and concerns adequately in my
> last post on this subject.
>
> Let me reiterate...this is a fly fishing / tying forum...it's sole
> purpose is to expand, expound, discuss and further our enlightenment
> of our favorite pastime. This does not now include or has it
> previously included religious or political discussions! Those topics
> are vehemently discouraged and will not be tolerated! The diversity
> of the members on this forum is far reaching and both religious and
> political beliefs are far too personal and for some all-encompassing
> and can only lead to bad feelings among those who may disagree with
> "your" beliefs.
>
> In addition, I do not condone or encourage that you portray your
> feelings in regards to these subjects by directly contacting
> individuals directly. I obviously have no control over that
> occurrence, but I do know from past experiences that this will
> generally result in the same type of resentments and ultimately hurt
> the structure of this forum.
>
> I'm certain, that if you feel strongly about expressing your
> religious or political beliefs, that a search of Google or Yahoo or
> Rec Groups will result in a much more appropriate venue for you to
> share your ideas and ideals. This IS NOT the place!
>
> This list has enjoyed eight years of respectful discussions of our
> most impassioned hobby. Current membership approaches 600
> individuals. Each of us have our own religious and political
> agendas...thank goodness that we don't all express them here. Can you
> imagine the chaos?
>
> On the other hand...this is also a developing family. Many of us have
> met, fished and tied flies together, and we all want and need to know
> of the well-being or difficulties of our internet friends. I, for
> one, do not consider a request for a prayer for a suffering loved
> one, a religious topic, but more a plea for support from ones family
> and friends. Personally, I'd prefer that responses to such requests
> be made off-list as I do, but I do understand that urgency and
> concern often result in on-list replies. You've never found me to
> object to such situations. My heart and my thoughts always go out to
> any of our members that suffer from disturbing circumstances.
>
> I certainly don't mean to be heavy-handed or become the "meany", but
> I've witnessed the result of un-moderated forums that allow
> completely open discussions. They disappear! Please consider that
> this venue is provided by your's truly...I can always take my ball
> and go home...;^)
>
> If any of you feel a strong desire to discuss this further, please
> contact me directly. You know how to get a hold of me.
>
> ...byard
>
> PS and BTW...I guess no one liked the new VFB hat colors?
>


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