Great Tony. I am looking forward to it. "When one associates with such loonies, one is forced to think about what is and is not appropriate for fly rods. Since there in neither a pope of fly fishing nor a pontificating council of eldeers - well, there are al lot of plain pontificators, I guess - one is quite within one's rights to fish however one chooses."
Nick Lyons "A Flyfisher's World" Alan Di Somma Phoenix,AZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Which is the right knot who really knows? - Now Norvise > Joyce, > I use the blue dental floss pullers from the Health Care dept.. I bet > they are the same thing. > About the bobbins. A good while back we talked at a good deal about the > thread and bobbins. You mentioned you would loose about 18" of thread to > preload the bobbin or to lock the bobbin after finishing the fly. I had > the old bobbin and you had the new ones. After I got some the new ones I > found out what you meant. The old bobbin will preload with a couple of > inches of thread extracted. When the fly was finished, Just a pull of > about six inches was all that was needed to lock the bobbin. The thread > would stay put. To start the next fly you would start the thread on the > hook, give the bobbin a light pull and the bobbin would retract right up > to the hook. NOT SO with the new bobbins, You have to extract about 18 > inches of thread to load it. If you don't preload, the bobbin will drop > almost to the floor when you start tying and let the bobbin go. Like > you, I have had long talks with Norm on this. Norm suggests that you > preload the bobbin the first time. When the bobbin is pre loaded, keep > it that way till your tying session is over. You use a hackle pliers for > this, I use the button on the end post as Larry does. To me this would > discourage some tyers from using the auto bobbin. I have three sets of > the new bobbins that are in the draw seldom used, I use the only old one > I have 99% of the time. Another problem is the hole in the new spools > are larger than the old ones so they are loose in the old retractor. I > have put an oversize "0" ring on the old retractor so I can use the new > spools and change back to the thinner "0" ring for the old spools > At times I am forced to use the new bobbin. I preload the spool, re wrap > the extended thread back on the spool, one of my new bobbins has the > thread extended almost 20" . It seems I always grab that one. This is > the bobbin that I lock the thread at the button on the post. The old > bobbin is a dream to use, Wish he had a couple that I could get from him. > Norm says he had to make a change in the spring material because of > returns due to spring breakage. I told him I would buy any old type > bobbins he might have. He has none for sale. > Like You, I make it work, but I am not happy with it but then again, it > is almost impossible to tie Norlander style with the auto bobbin. > Alan, > When I see you in March I will give you a demo between the two. > Tony > > Tony > > Joyce's crafts and flies wrote: > > >Bill, go to your nearest Walmart or such store. Look for a box of blue nylon > >floss threaders. Buy it (about 1.98). Never use wire bobbin threaders on any > >bobbin..they cause scratches, even on the hardest ceramics..and you will > >regret it when your thread starts to fray or break just at a most critical > >moment. Now having these (or using a loop of mono if you don't have them > >yet) unwind the bobbin so that you have at least 1 inch more of thread that > >will stick out the end of the bobbin when it is threaded. Now, flip the > >thread around the leg of the bobbin, stick in the floss threader, use the > >tip of your scissors (already in your right hand), to flip the end of the > >thread through the loop of the floss threader and pull the end of the floss > >threader out the end of the bobbin. Works like a charm. I always put my > >hackle pliers on the end of the thread next to the end of the bobbin before > >I ever cut it off from the flly. That way, no thread is wasted and that > >hackle pliers makes a great handle for me (with my old eyes) to use to find > >the thread end and start the wind around the next hook. Each inch of wasted > >thread costs money..you can tie several flies extra if you use the hackle > >pliers on the end of the thread method. Hope this helps. Joyce > > > > > > > > -- > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > >
