Mathew, don't worry, most of your trouble is probably physical. There are a myrid of dubbing waxes out there. Many of which are just fine for the job. The best one ever invented is Overton's Wonder Wax. It's great stuff. I have 5/6 different waxes. Forget the clue stick. And, forget trying to melt down a toilet seat seal. The stuff you need to do that with is illegal in most states now. Just go to your fly shop and buy some dubbing wax. They'll sell you the right stuff. Make sure you open it and take a look to see that it's fresh and has not been on the shelf for 10 yrs. The most important thing you need to remember is to never over dub unless that's what your trying to do on purpose. But a newbie shouldn't be concerned with that. Use the tiniest amounts at a time as you can get away with. Extremely tiny amounts at a time. And only twist in one direction, NOT back and forth. Get it on there as tight as you can, unless your simply touch dubbing and want a light application. But that's another show. And don't try and slide it up and down the thread until you really know what your doing with that. Leave enough bare thread at the top to get to where you want the dubbing to start when you begin your wraps. In other words, if your applying your dubbing with the thread where you were when you finished getting your butts together where body met wing, then leave just enough bare thread above the dubbing to wrap back to where the tail starts with bare thread and THEN have your dubbing come up and begin the body at THAT point. Get yourself some video's i've learned (by video) what might take someone 20 yrs. to learn without them. Go take as many classess/lessons as you can possibly afford as often as you can. And get books, TONS of books. Also visit web-sites CONSTANTLY. Try www.danica.com/flytier and www.flytyingworld.com later, mark....

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Subject: RE: [VFB] Glue Stick for dubbing
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:51:31 -0400

I wouldnt use that stuff if I was you. I use BT's wax stick if I need to. I never usually use any wax though. Another type of wax you can use is that stuff you buy in the form of a wax ring that goes under the toilet when replacing a toilet.

john

"Matthew Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>As a newbie, I often have ideas about how do do some things, but I have a feeling that you all have been through my trails and tribulation. I was having some problems with dubbing my flies. I have been using the wax that came with my "starter kit" but the fur never seemed to stick. So I got to thinking about those glue sticks we have at work, similar to paste. Seems to help with getting fur to stick to the thread, but I am worried it is going to fall apart once it hits the water. Anyone tried this before?
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>Maybe I should not try and reinvent the wheel.
>
>~Fuller
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