The only reason I can think of using wax is when using Gary LaFontaine's "touch dub" method. He prepares a ball of touch dubbing by cutting his antron "Sparkle Yarn" into small 1/8 inch snips, then takes a finger full of these snips into a ball and touches it onto the waxed thread, the wax grabs a hold of the snips and makes a thin, very fuzzing dubbing noodle.

This technique only works with a VERY sticky wax. I use Loon's high tak wax, called "Swax" which I assume is short for sticky wax.

Of course, most of us use pre waxed thread which provides ample wax for any normal dubbing technique.

But as Tony pointed out, the most important thing for beginning fly tiers is to control the amount of dubbing used. When I teach a fly tying class I tell the beginners to start with the smallest amount of dubbing they can see... and they are always surprised to find out how easy it is to do.

Tom Davenport

On Oct 29, 2004, at 8:49 PM, Alex Dennehy wrote:

I have never used wax or glue when dubbing. I have never had any trouble
and my flies catch fish. Why do people use it?


Alex

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Thankx Jerry. mark....

From: jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:05:04 -0600

It hasn't been outlawed. The manufactures are trying to get away from it
to protect themselves from all the "sue happy" idiots. I recently bought a

jar of Softex that is toluene based. The smell is wicked so work in a well

ventilated area. The water based Softex doesn't set up as fast or nice.

Jerry
WY


At 02:12 AM 10/28/04 +0000, you wrote:
That's the stuff. Sposed to be some pretty rough stuff. It's not a
componet mark. It's sometimes used in making dubbing wax. Or at least it
used to be. Word is, it's been outlawed. mark...


From: Mark Delaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:02:13 -0700 (PDT)

Toluene is not a normal component of toilet ring wax.
Toluene (contrary to California's arcane laws) has not
YET been shown to be a carcinogen, but is hell on the
liver.  California's laws are often based on
structural similarities, which may or may not hold
true.

Mark Delaney


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