Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern- the great debate rages on...

[KEITH PASSANT]

It certainly is good to hear from the old crew Rene. As for the debate 
(debait? sorry Don !! LOL) is a good one especially with the man who 
invented most things throwing in his little bits. As for the 477 its wool. 
Like most things natural it changes colour when wet. Are you still at the 
same address??? Str92 ?
Keith
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From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:51 PM
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Keith,
great to debate with you again, missed this in the past...
What type of material is this 477? Wool, cotton, silk,....
Rene
KEITH PASSANT wrote:
I think you are correct on the Mrs Sawyer theory Rene. She tied quite a 
few of his flies. I have used the 477 and it is a totally different 
colour when wet.The modern substitutes dont do that. Similarly the 
original Partridge and Orange spider pattern was tied with a body made of 
real silk. Totally different when wet again to the modern nylon floss 
bodies which stay the same colour when wet.
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Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:07 PM
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on...


BTW: Why did Sawyer choose Chadwickas 477? After a lot of test? Or 
because it was simple in his wife's Sewing box? Maybe she tied the first 
pattern?
Isn't it mostly a question of availability why we choose a specific 
material?
Rene

KEITH PASSANT wrote: