I agree totally Nick. I'm always on the lookout for "materials" in places that spossedly don't even sell "materials." I find "stuff" in all kinds of places. and it's a lot of fun to try and find things in unlikely places. Kind of like a treasure hunt almost anywhere you go. Nobody can rain on MY parade, lol. Not to mention i doubt there are many folks out here who spend as much as i do annually in fly shops. I can't even walk into one and come out empty handed. And the trouble is, i can't ever not walk into one. And we got over a dozen in the area, with at least 5 right here in town. The trick is to not get outta the truck, and just keep drivin'. LMAO. And i won't even get on the "Shows" portion of the topic. Jeeze.......... mark

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:39:39 +0100

This is stepping in on a favourite subject of mine... "Fly-tying material or
not". Every so often, I go out on a bike trip downtown, "raiding" all the
stores I pass. I'm walking around, scanning through the shelfs and
eventually someone always comes with the standard question: "Can I help you
with something?". Instant answer: "Nah, I'm just looking for fly-tying
materials."... and the poor employee always gets the same question mark
painted in his forehead. Confused he says: "Hmm... I don't know if we carry
that kind of stuff here." That's the point I think: "You wanna bet?"... and
then the fun starts. "There has to be SOMETHING!!!"


... and I always win. There always IS something you can use. Beads, wires,
brushes, tinsels, braids etc etc. Last time I challenged myself and went
into a car garage. Came out with my pockets full of thin packing foam that
they had thrown. That foam are coming as wings on my Foam Swap fly.

It's a sport of its own. Go out... look at everything there is... and think.

Bob has a point in what he says... but I wouldn't say there is a big risk to
put the fly shops out of business. Of the huge amount of fly-tying material
there is today, only a very small percent can be substituted on these hunts.
And if we're getting picky on quality too, the percent will make another
drastic drop.


/Nick


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Birdie, i like turkey flats, and one of the best and cheapest ways to get
them is to go to your Walmart or wherever, and just buy a duster. You can
usually find them in lots of different colors, pink, yellow, orange, white,
green, whatever. Buy them all, lol. Fly shops will just rip you off in
comparison price wise. All your going to do is scrunch up the tip of the
feather anyway, and tye it in for a post. You sure as heck do NOT need to be


paying fly shop prices for that. I buy feather dusters all the time for
different things. Some have decent Ostrich Herl,..... others just have
feathers dyed in a color(s) i like. Always keep your eyes open for materials


in places you might not think of as a materials place. I paid 79 cents each
for huge packages of tinsel the other day.....Christmas decorations, silver,


gold, and red. Go For It.  mark...

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>Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:03:53 +0100 (CET)
>
>Birdie,
>the easiest way are the foam posts, but I don't like them. Maybe
>because I'm more a traditionalist. Tying for the foam swap though... I
>dislike the Antron as well, in this case because of it's low
>performance. I know, others are very satisfied with this stuff for
>parachute wings. Maybe you have different stuff over there. Calftail.
>My no. 1 choise. Stiff, even when wet. Neat to handle, I like natural
>materials. Recently I tied a lot with feathers for the posts. Got a big
>bag of white feathers, I asume from hens or goose, like the ones you
>have in your pillow. Yes, we still have feathers in our pillows here.
><G> Maybe like turkey flats, but from hens...
>
>Don't forget to add a drop of glue into the post after finishing the
>fly.
>
>Best
>Rene
>
>
>Brian Burgess schrieb:
> > OK so now I have talked myself into joining Ricks
> > parachute swap.
> >
> > What I need to know is what is the best material for the wing posts
> > ?  Foam, Deer Hair Antron Yarn ?
> >
> > Any help appreciated
> >
> > Birdie










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