Martin, If it's the same weave as the one on Al Campbell's page, it is reversend from the one I have.
Try this. Do a horse-hair (or sub) weave with the belly-weave floss a different color. As you wrap the hair underneath, put it OVER the floss with the natural twist of the hair on the bottom, then wrap the floss backwards around the hair and then to the front. Repeat. This will create belly segments rather than a stitching, with the floss loop being towards you, not under the wrap. This also creates better segregation in the hair segments. I may be on to something here. Haven't found this exact weave in print yet. There is no lock-loop over the hook shank, but it can't go anywhere, either. And believe it or not, because the fly is loosely tied, it feels more real when you handle it. It's really an intriguing tie. Let me know if you can get it. If not, I'll make a little mpeg video for you of one step. I used poly-pro yarn for the belly weave. "But it's fuzzy" you say. That's because I used sand-paper on the belly weaves to rough them up. Oops! Another cat out of the bag. Ssssssh! File that with the radial hackle-tie. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Westbeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - replies > Hi Don, > I checked the FTBR and the Pott's weave shown there *looks* different from > the one on your mite, but it's the same weave I think. Your weave has the > loop wrap (the fuzzy material) underneath the shank, the FTBR version has > the loop wrap above the shank. There the longitudinal band (they use 2 > colors of chenille) is along the back, your band is along the "belly". > I first tried the FAOL Pott's weave but I feel I'm missing something between > steps 5 and 6. > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - replies > > > > Kevin, > > The hair-weave using the square-knot technique looks pretty good, too. > > I used JimmyD's longhorn hair to tie a stone for him. It's normally on > > his > > site. > > > > Martin, > > I gave my FTBR to a friend, so I can't consult it, but I don't remember > > finding the same belly-weave in it as I see on this fly. Would you > > compare > > the photos Rene posted for me and see if the weaves in your book would > > create the flies in the photo? Notice the bottom photo. The stitching > > method doesn't give segments like that. > > > > Jimmy, > > I can't bring up the picture gallery with the stonefly on your site. Are > > you revising it? > > > > Rene, > > Thanks for posting the photos. > > > > If we do a hair-weave swap, I want to be in it, but let's hold off until > > some of these other swaps are out of the way. Time for practicing. > > > > I've done scuds using the 'belly-weave' and rope-dubbed ice dub for the > > legs, picked out. Really fast and looks and fishes great. An underbody > > must be built first, but it is a good spot to hide a little lead strip. > > > > DonO > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin W. Machon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:49 PM > > Subject: RE: [VFB] Sandy Mite - thanks! > > > > > >> > >> DonO - thanks for bringing up this pattern and technique. Very cool with > > a > >> lot of applications. > >> > >> And thanks to everyone else who posted links and pictures. Very > > informative > >> and it goes a long way toward increasing the skills and abilities of the > >> list. > >> > >> After viewing Rene's posted pics, I'll bet this technique could make a > > very > >> realistic salmonfly imitation - either adult or nymph. Use the orange > > weave > >> under the thorax and abdomen with black/dark brown hair or chennile or > >> dubbing for the wraps in place of the squirrell hair. > >> > >> Any thoughts from the list about what dark material might work best here? > >> I'd like to try it out. > >> > >> And I would definately be in for a swap using this if it ever happens! > >> > >> Kev > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
