Makes sense, DonO. I'll give it a couple tries and see if it's working.
Thanks!
Kev
From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - good info, another question Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:30:16 -0800
Kevin,
The top hairs will slide a little if you build the dcud-like underbody. The
black underbody is the trick for getting the segments to stand out. If you
use other material besides hair, you'll lose a lot of the effect.
Again, this belly-weave is different from the cross-weaves and square-knot weaves of the standard two-toned stonefly tails.
Giver'r a try and let me know how you do.
DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin W. Machon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - good info, another question
> Thanks for the info and help, Mark and DonO.
>
> Now what I'm wondering is does the hair or other wrapping material need to
> allow the weaving to slide a little as you tighten it around the hair
bunch?
> I'm envisioning that squirrell, horsehair, elk mane, etc. that are
smooth
> and a bit slick would work better than peacock, wool, or other dubbing.
>
> Guess I'll have to give 'er a try and see what happens.....but the
salmonfly
> I'm picturing is closer to reality.
>
> Kev
>
>
> >From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - replies
> >Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:35:06 -0800
> >
> >Mark,
> >Anything that is long, at least 4" (little flies could be shorter) can be
> >used to weave, the length depending on size fly and # of weaves you need
to
> >make. The hair must not break as it's making the turns. Soaking it
> >beforehand in conditioner helps. Take the number of hairs you need, lash
> >them down, and tie the other ends in a knot. This makes the strand more
> >manageable. I've used horse, PB, sheep, superhairs, synthetics, longhorn
> >bull tail, yak, skunk-tail, elk-mane, and a few others. Varying the
color
> >tones of the hairs adds to the segmentation effects. Peacock does well
> >with
> >some weave styles, too. Havalina is stiff and brittle, but works if
soaked
> >real well. Experimenting with the belly material is just as fun.
Endless
> >possibilities and combinations. Try rope-dubbing a hackle in with
peacock
> >and doing a cross-weave with a yellow-orange dubbing rope for the belly.
> >Very interesting result when used with a black bead-head. A perfect
hairy
> >caterpillar with a fuzzy orange belly.
> >
> >This is one reason I like those split nymph hooks- makes it easier to
weave
> >without having to create the body. Oops! Cat's out of the bag. :o)
> >
> >DonO
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 9:13 AM
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - replies
> >
> >
> > > Kevin, what about Moose mane hair, or black Bear, or Skunk, or twisted
> > > peacock hearl, or even wild boar (Javalina)? mark...
> > >
> > > >From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Sandy Mite - replies
> > > >Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:32:40 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Kevin,
> > > >The hair-weave using the square-knot technique looks pretty good,
too.
> > > >I used JimmyD's longhorn hair to tie a stone for him. It's normally
on
> >his
> > > >site.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >DonO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Kevin W. Machon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:49 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: [VFB] Sandy Mite - thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > DonO - thanks for bringing up this pattern and technique. Very
cool
> > > >with
> > > >a
> > > > > lot of applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > And thanks to everyone else who posted links and pictures. Very
> > > >informative
> > > > > and it goes a long way toward increasing the skills and abilities
of
> >the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > > After viewing Rene's posted pics, I'll bet this technique could
make
> >a
> > > >very
> > > > > realistic salmonfly imitation - either adult or nymph. Use the
> >orange
> > > >weave
> > > > > under the thorax and abdomen with black/dark brown hair or
chennile
> >or
> > > > > dubbing for the wraps in place of the squirrell hair.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts from the list about what dark material might work
best
> > > >here?
> > > > > I'd like to try it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > And I would definately be in for a swap using this if it ever
> >happens!
> > > > >
> > > > > Kev
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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