Jimi,

To confuse you more the line rating system for spey
lines and rods is different than single-hand rods! 
The spey industry is trying to standardize things
however.

Basically spey ratings are lower than single-hand
ratings.  Spey lines are all based on the 'grain'
weighting of lines.  The grain weight is based on I
believe 80ft of line out (I might be wrong), vs. 30ft
for single-hand lines.

As an example my 6/7 13'4" spey rod handles a 6/7/8
line that has a grain weight of about 450.  That
versus my 9'6" 7wt single-hand rod that has a standard
7wt line that I believe has a grain weight of about
265.

I'm a spey newbie but from my introduction to the
sport it's definitely an area where speyers really
fiddle with...sometimes even building custom lines to
satisfy their requirements.

If you're starting with a single-hand rod I suggest
trying to find a long belly line that is designed to
roll easily.  Wulff Triangle Tapers, SA XXD, and
'steelhead/spey' named lines are a good start.  Again
make sure they're single hand lines if you're going
with a single hand rod.

Confused yet?  Good luck.

Preston
--- Desert Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Windcutter Spey 7/8/9 sounds like what Iain
> recomended. Like you said,
> it is far different from what I am used to, or what
> is available around
> here. Still lots to learn though.
> Jimi
> 
> Jimi,
> 
> Short belly is relative.  Even a spey short belly is
> way longer than a weight forward head.
> 
> As an example go to Rio fly lines website and check
> out the specs of their lines.  You'll see their spey
> lines have unique heads designed for spey casting.
> 
> Rio's short belly is called the Windcutter. 
> Mid-belly
> is called the MidSpey and long belly called the
> Grandspey.
> 
>
http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20005
> 
> Be sure to click on a particular line and scroll
> done
> to see the line diagram and specs.  Compare these
> spey
> lines to Rio's normal weight forward lines!
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Preston
> --- Desert Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Short Belly? Is that kind of like a weight
> forward?
> > No way of getting a real
> > Spey line here in SE NM.
> > Jimi
> >
> > It sounds like you're pretty serious about trying
> it
> > out.  Therefore I suggest you purchase the John
> and
> > Amy Hazel 'Introduction to Spey casting'
> > instructional
> > DVD.  Search spey in ebay and you should see one
> or
> > two for sale.  Brand new for $24US.  It's an
> > excellent
> > instructional video for over an hour.  Explains
> > every
> > cast and goes over detailed mechanics.
> >
> > As far as finishing and staring a cast, yes when
> the
> > drift is finished you simply lift the rod up and
> > initiate a cast.  With the long rod you can pick
> up
> > the whole line usually.  That's a huge advantage
> of
> > spey casting as you don't have to strip.  Having
> > said
> > that some people do shoot line when the rivers are
> > large (>60ft) and they're using short belly lines.
> > Short meaning the head is 45-50 feet (lines are a
> > whole discussion topic).  They then strip in to
> the
> > beginning of the head and cast again.  Long belly
> > lines (heads are 80 ft) don't require this but are
> > harder to cast.
> >
> > Preston
> >
> >
> >
> >
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