I have discovered that to simply make a loop and tie the hackle next to it, then turn the fly upside down (if you have a vise that will rotate) and then it is much easier to put your finger in the loop and wind the hackle around that loop..similar to what you are already used to doing when you wind peacock herl into a chenille. I get a much nicer hackle wind as then the tendency is to pack the hackle closer to the hook, ( which is now on top of the loop) ..at least for me. Try it..think outside the "box". Joyce
