Ed,
Thanks.  I didn't know that about Grumman aluminum.
I would have thought aluminum is aluminium (British). :o)

I don't intend cutting or welding on the canoe itself.  The only
modifications I'll make to the canoe is drilling holes, and that will be
above waterline, and mostly in the edge-rails.  Then I'll install brackets
that will allow quick-disconnect of the accessory.

One of the things that really bothered my back before was the single-side
torque of paddling.  I intend to try kayak-style paddles this time, with a
swivel canoe seat.  This should give my repaired back even stress and avoid
fatigue.

DonO



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Engelman/Sue Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Canoe handling - was rod building


> I've been told that the aluminum that is used on Grumman canoes cannot be
> welded!
>
> I have modified my own aluminum canoe by drilling into the transom and
> struts.  I have also used threaded pop-rivet inserts to modify canoes.  If
> you are intent on drilling at or below waterline you can buy "supposedly"
> waterproof rivets from the Grumman Canoe factory.  I have used them to
> repair bashed canoes with mixed success.  Mixed success means you only
need
> to bail after an hour or two when your toes start getting wet.  Also, you
> need two people to put the rivets in place.  One to hit them with a hammer
> and rivet set, the other to hold a block of steel backing on the other
> side.  Fun?  Heck yes!
>
> Good luck
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> >I'd like to learn to weld aluminum.  Does anyone on the list weld
aliminum?
> >I'd like to make a bunch of removable accessories of my own design.  One
> >thing I like about the sport canoe is that it's wide and stable enough to
> >stand up and fish.  I intend to capitalize on that.  Outriggers could be
> >applied for flats-fishing (carping) and would even allow for a short
casting
> >platform.
> >
> >Appreciate any feedback.
> >
> >DonO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] rod building
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 2/10/2005 1:36:31 A.M., [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> >Ah another canoe FFer... Mine is a Mad River Explorer 16'. I can easily
> >operate it solo -- installed a centre seat specifically for that
> >purpose.
> >
> >Have always been comfortable in my 17' Grunman aluminum from the stern
seat.
> >Been know to lay on belly towards/on stern and do a backwards
breaststroke
> >of sorts.  From stern, you must learn J stroke, and that term I recently
> >forgot where you draw the canoe sideways with a side to side pulling
motion.
> >Not sculling, what is it you guys?  Even Byard has a canoe but his is on
a
> >trailer?
> >
> >Murf
> >
> >David Murphy, Vice President/Consultant
> >
> >
> >The Walper Group
> >1 Research Court, Suite 450
> >Rockville, MD 20850
> >Direct: 301-607-9047
> >Cell: 301-370-6067
> >Toll Free: 866-491-6919
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>
>
>


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