Exellent point Mel! We sure do know how to mess things up.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:54:37 -0800, mel hocken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting thread about invasive species. The irony about the various > problems being discussed regarding invasive species is they were all caused > by the most invasive species of them all "HOMO SAPIEN" > Regards > Mel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:42 AM > Subject: RE: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish > > > And Jack, as to your quote way down below..............i "tagged" it > > with........."no matter how much you love what you do." mark > > > >>From: "William Andreas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >>To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > >>Subject: RE: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish > >>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:55:26 -0500 > >> > >>And don't forget about all the smallmouth, out competing the native brook > >>trout populations in Maine. Most Northwesterm Maine rivers have a > >>mandatory kill law in place for smallmouth. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ken Staples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thu 2/17/2005 12:28 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Cc: > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish > >> > >> > >> > >> Come on down to South Florida. We have one or two invasive species. > >> Heck, I think we have them all except the trout! > >> > >> FWC encourages anglers to filet & release all of them except the > >> peacocks. A lot of times you'll find exotics lying on the banks where > >> people caught them & let them die (saw an armored catfish the other > >> day). Lots of people eat them though. They sure can rack up the > >> tallies in our fly fishing club's species contest though! > >> > >> Mayan cichlids are some of the most common. To be honest they're a > >> heck of a lot of fun on a 5 or 6 wt. Fight like peacocks in a > >> bluegill's body with a snapper's teeth. Then there's the tilapia which > >> I can't get to take a fly. > >> > >> Many people are starting to target them as "sport" species including: > >> snakeheads; clown knifefish; oscars; jaguar gapotes; and midas > >> cichlids. I've hooked into some big jeweled cichlids that fought like > >> crazy. As pervasive as these things are supposed to be many of them > >> are actually hard to find (at least for me). I think I've seen some > >> snakeheads but they could have been bowfins; it was hard to tell. > >> Haven't found the clowns or midas yet. > >> > >> One of the scariest, in my mind at least, is the establishment of > >> burmese pythons in the everglades. I haven't seen one live yet but I'm > >> hearing more and more reports. I love snakes but that's something that > >> could really upset the ecosystem down there. They can actually prey on > >> gators & crocs. > >> > >> Then of course there's all the snowbirds... ;-> (D'n'R) > >> > >> Ken > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:19:00 -0500, David Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > Eddie, > >> > This is a very interesting subject for debate. I ran up to read the > >>article > >> > quickly after seeing the first post. Much to be said about invasive > >> > species. I miss the days that schools of brookies were in almost every > >> > stream in PA. Today, the more dominate brown trout has had an > >>undeniable > >> > efect on their populations. Or is it man's forestry and other land use > >> > practices? -Murf > >> > > >> > >From: "Eddie D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >> > >To: <[email protected]> > >> > >Subject: RE: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish > >> > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:33:30 -0500 > >> > > > >> > >Jack, > >> > >The "brutal" truth of this article (although i have not read it, but > >>the > >> > >agruement has been argued before between friends) is that these fish > >>ARE > >> > >invasive. They do take over the "native" fish's natural habitat. But > >> > >being invasive does not necesarrily mean that it is a bad thing. > >>Although > >> > >I was much too young to actually remember this ever occuring, > >>biologists > >> > >said that the Hydrilla that was invading the potomac river would kill > >>the > >> > >river beyond repair. Now it is one of the best bass fisheries > >>availible. > >> > >Personally, I would like to see the Snake Head make a home in the > >>Potomac > >> > >and surrounding areas. They are a very aggressive eater, and a very > >>strong > >> > >fighter, almost like a Pike i've been told (By Ken Penrod, fishing > >>guide). > >> > >I dont see anything wrong with that. And Folks, the stories about > >> > >them > >>are > >> > >NOT true. I was there with Ken after he brought a LIVE snakehead to > >>the > >> > >boat ramp, and so were a few reporters. For those of you who do not > >>know > >> > >Ken, he is a very popular fishing guide in the Potomac (PAMARVA area) > >> > >region. Ken laid the fish on the grass to demonstrate the "walking > >> > >abilities of this fish". "It looks like its flopping like a fish" > >> > >said > >> > >penrod. The reporter said maybe a harder surface, so they placed him > >>on > >> > >the pavement. Still no walking. And after 20 minutes in the shaded > >>grass, > >> > >the fish was dead. So much for its iron lung. > >> > > > >> > >Just my 2 cents. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >-Eddie > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >>From: Jack Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >> > >>Subject: [VFB] Nasty invasive fish > >> > >>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:45:14 -0500 > >> > >> > >> > >>The March issue of National Geographic Magazine has an article on > >>invasive > >> > >>species and the problems they are causing. Included is a list of the > >>100 > >> > >>"worst". Only 8 fish made this list which includes, along with the > >>walking > >> > >>catfish, brown trout, rainbow trout and largemouth bass. So everyone, > >>get > >> > >>out there and help curtail this invasion. One question; should we all > >> > >>abandon "catch and Release"? Fat chance! > >> > >> > >> > >>Jack > >> > >>"The worst day on the stream is infinitely better than the best day > >> > >>at > >>the > >> > >>office." > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > >> > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
