Thanks all,
I use a pretty cheap "walmart special" 6wt (8ft) that I got when I first started. I think the rod was $10. The biggest fish I've landed was a 15lb carp while fishing for panfish. The Steelhead up here don't go much above 12# with most around 8# and I can handle them given enough time. Thanks for all the input. I'll pass it along to him.

Jonathan




From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [VFB] All purpose Rod
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:29:08 -0400

Most of my posts are not getting through but I'll try again

I think you are asking an awful lot of a rod to be right for 8 ounce
bream and 40 pound carp at the same time.  I would suggest that your
beginner friend stick to a lighter rod and the panfish and small flies
for bass to start.  He will not get much fun out of catching small fish
on a magnum rod and would probably end up dropping the sport.  Better to
spend his money getting a rod just right for what he will catch the most
of and then as he gets more hooked on the sport to upgrade to what he
requires for bigger game.  Cabelas sells rod combos for less than $100
that are far superior to anything most of us learned on.

Mike M

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:04 AM
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Subject: RE: [VFB] All purpose Rod

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Mark Delaney
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [VFB] All purpose Rod
>
> You are pretty much on the mark.  I might consider a 7 wt (or even and
> 8 wt), depending on the size of carp being targeted.  I know i used to
> go steeleheading and salmon fishing with my 8 wt when I lived in
> Michigan
>
> Mark Delaney

Mark,

you beat me to it.  I used a 5 wt on the veggie carp (amur) in our
backyard
when the kids were growing up.  They would literally run the entire
length
of the small pond.  When I fished for the bigger carp in other lakes I
would
use an 8 or 9wt.

And while my experience with steel head is limited to the smaller
steelhead
in the Yuba and American Rivers in California,  if the steelhead up
north
are bigger, you will need a bigger stick.

A seven weight is right on target for largemouth, big for sunfish and
may
be a bit large for trout depending on where you fish.  Out west, in the
big
rivers, think a 6wt is pretty standard, buy on lots of occasions you
will
appreciate a 7wt.

But with a 5 or 6wt, throwing some of the flies you will want for
largemouth
becomes a real chore.  And as Mark pointed out a big carp or steelhead
will
overpower a 5 or 6 wt.

I would say at least a 7wt.

JG



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